John Conyers, Jr. - 40 Years Of Jobs, Justice And Peace

Blogged by JC on 07.05.05 @ 08:53 PM ET

Letter to Bush -- Rove Needs to Come Clean or Resign


After reading the disclosures over the weekend, by Newsweek and Larry O'Donnell that Karl Rove had indeed been confirmed as one of the sources being used by Time for their Plame investigation, I quickly drafted a sign-on letter to the President asking him to either require that Rove clear his name or resign. Rawstory has the story and a copy of my letter.

One really needs to take a step back to appreciate what we now know. Fitzgerald may or may not be able to prove that Mr. Rove knowingly outed Valerie Plame, but the facts being reported by the media, and largely confirmed by Rove's attorney, indicate that he engaged in a media campaign to discredit a prominent American public servant, Ambassador Joseph Wilson, for disclosing what he knew about the Administration's mistatements concerning WMD. As Rove told Chris Matthews last year, he felt Wilson's wife was "fair game" for the press. These facts represent an outrageous admisssion, and only the President can eliminate the stain on his Administration by demanding that Rove come clean. Rove clearly has the right to defend himself and avoid difficult questions, as a private citizen. But as a government employee, and perhaps the most important individual in the Administration ("Bush's Brain"), the country is entitled to more than I didn't "knowingly" out a CIA operative from Rove's attorney.

This being a recess week, it will be somewhat difficult to obtain co-signatories. But the issue was important enough that I felt we couldn't wait in getting Members on record that this type of abusive behavior should not be tolerated.

Replies: 67 Comments


Comment #1: Sandra said on 7/5/05 @ 8:57pm ET...

This is just the tip of the iceberg, I'm sure. But, it's the beginning of the oncoming criminal prosecutions and holding these people accountable.

Thank you, once again Congressman Conyers. Your letter is quite compelling and pointed.

Keep up the fight!



Comment #2: Sandra said on 7/5/05 @ 9:07pm ET...

Possible responses:

1. Denial
2. Plead the 5th
3. Resignation

From the press reports there were actually 6 journalists/outlets to have received this same smear campaign message of 'fair game'.

Who else will step forward?

p.s. If you can't find co-signatories during a recess week I'm sure there are plenty of American patriotic citizens willing to sign it with you :0)



Comment #3: Jonathan Gold said on 7/5/05 @ 9:11pm ET...

John, how hard would it be for your to hold a National Press Conference on prime time? A "Truth Telling Extravaganza" sponsored by Americans... I would donate for a cause like that...

Thanks,

Jonathan Gold



Comment #4: mpfoster said on 7/5/05 @ 9:25pm ET...

If the country does not care about the lose of their election system, what incentive does Bush have to get rid of the man that gets things done for him? It would be like Hitler getting rid of Himmler, because he was a murderer. If they get the job done, and nobody seems to care, than they can go right on hurting people for their own benefit and call it morality. What is, is not!



Comment #5: Jonathan Gold said on 7/5/05 @ 9:40pm ET...

The "country" does not care because the "country" doesn't know... They just don't know. If they did, I can almost GUARANTEE people would hold those responsible, accountable.



Comment #6: Bill_o_Carolina said on 7/5/05 @ 10:03pm ET...

I agree, the majority of Americans are unaware of most of what's going on! MSM is unbelievable.



Comment #7: Nolip said on 7/5/05 @ 10:23pm ET...

Let the drumbeat for impeachment and the removal from office of these criminals continue to beat loudly until that drumbeat is heard throughout this land and all are removed from positions of power where their legacy will be their abuse of power not for anything they contributed to the body politic...in the same vein as Haldeman, Erlichman, Dean and Nixon before them.



Comment #8: Hope2006 said on 7/5/05 @ 10:30pm ET...

Thank you, Congressman Conyers for once again having the courage to stand up for the American people in what you believe in.



Comment #9: Sandra said on 7/5/05 @ 10:56pm ET...

Bill/Jon,

Although I'm beginning to see more insightful reporting by CNN, the MSM remains corporate controlled and has financial interests in play.

Just as the Banks are compelling Bush to go all over the country to get those Social Security funds via 'private accounts'... Wall Street is on the brink and will soon collapse -- a dark age not even close to comparable to 1929.

Even the MSM will not be able to hide this truth much longer. The facts will speak louder than words. GM and Ford are going in to government receivership, the airline pensions are insolvent and the government is unable to secure their funds. Many banks will also have to go in to receivership or close their doors.

One by one the resignations must now begin. Rove will be sacrificed first.

We are the PEOPLE! Be the MEDIA! Shout it from the roof tops if you must! But, keep the communication going, inform the uninformed, and don't give up hope. America is just awakening from it's long slumber and they will be dealt a shock of reality very soon.



Comment #10: Sandra said on 7/5/05 @ 10:58pm ET...

Comment #7: Nolip

My thoughts exactly!



Comment #11: Horkus said on 7/5/05 @ 11:09pm ET...

According to O'Donnel, too many people within "journalism" have known this bit of info for months.

I pose the question, what else might they know, but have been silent about?

It's great that a very small minority in the press are starting to do their jobs. But don't let them off the hook either. If or when the whole Rove/Plame (possibly
Jeff Gannon too?) affair gets dealt with accordingly, members of the press need to address their months of silence on this matter.



Comment #12: Sandra said on 7/5/05 @ 11:14pm ET...

Comment #11: Horkus
re: MSM
Absolutely. Their diversionary tactics and hiding the truth must be dealt with accordingly. Democracy relies upon a free press and they clearly have not served this nation well.



Comment #13: Happy said on 7/5/05 @ 11:16pm ET...

"Plamegate" - if that's what it is - is a compelling story. Mr. Rove, if indeed responsible for the leaked information, has an opportunity to be a true patriot and a hero to all Americans. He could come clean and tell all. He could surrender his catalog of insider knowledge regarding the dubious affairs of this nation's executive branch.

Most likely, he will, like a loyal warrior, do everything he can to protect his master. He may go down swinging and attempt to drag this issue out and hype it so much that it will become like a soothing blanket to cover up this administration's other failures: On Iraq, on social security, on tax cuts for the ones who deserve tax cuts least, etc...

What we as caring Americans must not do is lose sight of the forest for this tree. Though this is a big tree, please Mr. Conyers, do not let it get in the way of the critical work to expose and demand answers regarding the content of the D.S. memoranda.

Every day that passes with out so much as an answer to, or acknowledgement of the letter your conceived, (and I signed onto with over one half of a million fellow Americans) is an indictment of the Bush administration.

Their attitude of being 'above and beyond reach' of the people, and the law, is unacceptable.

Please don't let Rove's complicity in this divert us from the 'big kahuna.'

Though, perhaps plamegate will help in some way with the other investigations into this administration's shady manuevers!

Thank you for all your hard work Representative Conyers.

Robert Whitlock



Comment #14: Nolip said on 7/5/05 @ 11:42pm ET...

Comment #10: Sandra
In a related development...and maybe you concur...

By invoking the ghosts of 9/11 in his recent address, Bush confirms once more just how disconnected the war in Iraq is from 9/11. The key terrorist, OBL, remains at large because Bush ignored the intel on OBL before and after 9/11. Why? He was too focused on removing Hussein (Richard Clarke's "Against All Enemies").
9/11 happened on Bush's watch but, for whatever reason, some people in this country embraced his personal characterization of himself as the "war president" as he led this country into an illegal war through obfuscation and fixing intel around a bankrupt policy (See Colin Powell's presentation to the United Nations before the war as well as the Downing Street Minutes).
OBL-at-large continues to be ignored by Bush (almost 4 years later) while encouraging this country to "stay the course" (tired old saw from his old man).

The course to go into Iraq was wrong from the get go. To stay the course locks this country into an exercise in futility. Iraq must decide its own fate. Our presence there only infuriates the Muslim world even more while maintaining a top notch training ground for future terrorists. We need to leave. The sooner the better. If Iraq collapses, the collapse will be Bush's legacy. Iraq is just another business gone bad for Bush, just like the businesses he bankrupted while a civilian. His ability to bankrupt is not in question. It's how many deaths will it take for Congress to realize they have a lying, albeit politically savvy underachiever at the helm and impeach him from office for "high crimes and misdemeanors".

William Goldman, in his screenplay for "All The Presidents Men" had Deep Throat utter "follow the money". The money trail ends at the White House, just as Harry Truman once said "The buck stops here". Why does the money trail lead to the White House? Oil and the control of that commodity appears to be the prime mover here. Why not, the Bush family and the Saudis go way back so why not line their pockets while robbing ours (Craig Unger's "House of Bush, House of Saud)? It's the American way, right?
With Representative Conyer's efforts this country will wake up to the terrible train wreck known as the Bush Administration sooner than later and will deliver this bunch of miscreants to their local federal jail.

You know this stuff already. It helps to repeat it. The references cited are for the benefit of those who seek to know the origins of the comments above.



Comment #15: ljm said on 7/5/05 @ 11:46pm ET...

Mr. Conyers, it's wonderful to get it on record that this type of abuse should not be tolerated. I just hope you give Fitzgerald the space he needs to complete his investigation and the grand jury to do their work. A congressional investigation at the same time could pose problem according to John Dean. The grand jury lasts until October. Thanks for being vigilant.



Comment #16: Doug Eldritch said on 7/6/05 @ 12:47am ET...

Regarding the issue of Rove, it all connects back into the DSM. We should certainly have the Grand Jury find the man in contempt if he did in fact leak the CIA agent's identity.

Because that would mean Karl Rove was ordered to slander Joe Wilson and the CIA task force which were refusing to manufacture the evidence. This would lead to a scathing indictment, proving that the CIA network "WHIG" fixed the intelligence and facts around the policy.

It would mean that the administration now only has plausible deniability, when prosecution of this case fully begins to preside.

Doug E.



Comment #17: Sandra said on 7/6/05 @ 1:14am ET...

Comment #14: Nolip
Yes, concur and have emailed you.



Comment #18: Patriot said on 7/6/05 @ 1:38am ET...

This letter, like the previous letter, will be ignored. The questions will continue to pile up. The right will continue to participate in the cover-up... Until someone on the right has the courage to stand up and say, "I won't be part of the raping of America."

The letter to Bush from the Representatives was ignored. I've not heard anyone but me say that it wasn't just a letter from 128 members of Congress, it was a letter from the representatives of close to 70,000,000(?) American citizens. Bush chose to ignore the American people by ignoring those whom we elected to represent us.

I cannot imagine any other president, in the history of America, nor in America's future, who would ignore a question put to him by more than 20% of the population.

Mr. Bush, WE THE PEOPLE, demand accountability. Answer our questions. Lead, follow or get out of the way. You will go down as the most influencial president of all time, one who took a peaceful country where friends and family had mutual interests and have turned it into a country near civil war. I've lost most of my life, many of my friends, most of my relatives, my standing in my community because I will not stand down from the values I hold dear.

Accountability, Mr. Bush. The time is now for you to act.



Comment #19: Lemon said on 7/6/05 @ 2:31am ET...

St. Germain 6.10.05

Every day will give you opportunities to spread the Light, and even without realizing it you affect the train of thought of another. You have a love of talking and as you come together so you express your ideas and opinions. All of the time you are re-assessing your position on matters, and the media also greatly influences you. It is almost entirely under the influence and control of the Illuminati who dictate what you should be made known to you. More importantly, they decide what you should not know about and this is where your problem lies. For many decades you have been deceived and often fed outright lies, all to condition you so that you can be manipulated and kept in place.

In the circumstances, it has been left to many individuals to pursue their own line of investigation, and mainly through your Internet the findings can be made public. Fortunately there are always people even in high places that are not prepared to toe the line, and they will find ways of leaking information that is essential to your understanding of the truth. As you are aware, the difficulty in some areas such as politics is that you endanger yourself once you are seen to go against the establishment. Reputations have been reduced to tatters, and jobs have been lost because people have had the audacity to speak out.

It is regrettable that some of the professional bodies are amongst the most closeted and vociferous, when they turn upon their own. Fortunately you have free thinking people that will stand up for what they believe. Truth has a ring about it that speaks true when you hear it, and this is where your intuition plays a big part. You often speak of something “feeling” right and this is where an open mind is essential. Everyone is capable of having a bias for wanting a certain truth to confirm their own views and opinions. Certainly no one likes to be proved wrong about any of their pet beliefs. Yet, in this current period of great changes, the truth can no longer be hidden and it is important that you do have an open mind.

Now more than ever it is essential that you do take notice of what is being said, but allow yourself to question it and if need be read between the lines. The new energies that are grounding upon Earth are helping reveal the secrets held in the closet of the dark. No longer can they be brushed aside, and attempts to keep them concealed will eventually fail. There is much to come out, and a great deal of it will have to wait until the changes are underway. Some matters are no longer relevant, but in giving the truth, it will necessarily cover those areas that have been important to your development. It goes back into your ancient history, and will reveal how as a race you have been deliberately mislead and kept in the dark.

Your written history is but a pale reflection of the truth. A whole succession of events have been written to show them in the way it is preferred that you should remember them. You currently have your on going arguments about the reasons for the war on Iraq , and eventually attempts will be made to permanently hide the truth. Going back to an event that occurred in many of your life times at the close of World War 2, you will find that there is evidence that before the atomic bombs were dropped on Japan , they had offered to surrender. It was ignored because another agenda had already been prepared, and thousands upon thousands of people were killed or injured unnecessarily in appalling circumstances. Bringing such events nearer home, the attack on Pearl Harbor could have been prevented, but again it was allowed to happen so that an unpopular decision to take America into the war could be justified.

Dear Ones, all through your history you have been used and manipulated to satisfy the lust and greed of your leaders. You have had a whole era of nothing but frequent wars with the consequent high loss of life. Your history will try to glorify such wars and appeal to your patriotic feelings as a means of justifying them. Of course there have been times when everything else has failed to prevent one, and you have been forced to defend yourselves. This should be a last resort, and not as with Iraq a reason to start a war.

There are few disputes that cannot eventually be settled through diplomacy, but it requires goodwill on both sides. At present you have a leadership that is only interested in self aggrandizement and global domination. Where you are now, is a great challenge to those who oppose war and wish for peace amongst all men. The giants amongst men are rising up and making their voices heard, and even the closed media has to concede some space to these people. They are gathering support and so many of you are questioning the way in which you have been used. The more you talk amongst your selves, the more you will stimulate others to see beyond the official view of news and how it should be presented. You will begin to break out of the mould that has brainwashed you for eons of time. It is time to insist upon being told the truth.

I encourage you to look deeper into events that are now taking place in your lives. See the real motives that lie behind decisions that are made in your name. Demand the truth, and no more lies. Your voices carry power and no authorities like to be questioned, but if you persist you will enforce changes. I will use an expression that many use, and that is “it is time to stand up and be counted” and the more of you that band together, the stronger your voice will be and more difficult to ignore. Great help will accompany your efforts and we will back you and protect you in such important and necessary action. You will be instrumental in the removal of the dark and help those who have a more direct involvement. Success is to be yours and victory will be your prize.

I am St. Germain and see how close we are to achieving our goal. Once we do so, peace will descend upon Earth, and you will see how quickly people can come together in a common cause for good. The flag of freedom flies in the winds of change that are now bringing you release from the energies of the dark, that have held you back for so long. Be strong willed and the legions of Heaven will walk with you in great Love and Light.

Thank you St. Germain

Mike Quinsey



Comment #20: Teresa said on 7/6/05 @ 2:50am ET...

Lemon #19

I give it two to three years for this phase of the truth to emerge. If we continue with all of our might together I think the lies of this administration will bring them down. This is just a start. I think Iraq is the vortex/volcano in the cradle of civilization that is a turning point in this struggle. The truth is erupting uncontrollably while the elite's money and power is being sucked in. And still the reason for the war cannot be established. Some of us know the truth behind their motives, but there is a bigger truth trumping them. Many of us believe that there is a genuine awakening in the human race occurring now and I am hoping that more and more of us become aware of this big picture.

So far the kings and rulers have been unable to truly succeed and it is a good time to start turning the tables.



Comment #21: Teresa said on 7/6/05 @ 2:58am ET...

But first things first.

Rove is a key player and his crimes are being revealed. He should be removed. He rules with an iron fist and has complete control over his domain. If he falls, a lot of others will be lost, I believe.

We can't even entertain the notion that this won't happen. If we want to survive we have to end this kind of behavior in our government. We have to believe completely that we can accomplish his removal from power and go about the process however long and difficult it is. We can't stop now nor back down in any way at all no matter what they throw at us.
We've got the goods.



Comment #22: Kitty Gambler said on 7/6/05 @ 3:16am ET...

#2 (Sandra) -

If only our hyper-religious President would take the fifth COMMANDMENT, the one about honoring they father's judgment:

"...[We] need more protection for the methods we use to gather intelligence and more protection for our sources, particularly our human sources, people that are risking their lives for their country.
....I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors."

- George H.W. Bush, 41st President of the United States.
1999 Dedication of George Bush Center for [CIA] Intelligence
http://www.cia.gov/cia/public_affairs/speeches/1999/bush_speech_042699.html



Comment #23: Kertis said on 7/6/05 @ 6:56am ET...

Congressman

Enjoyed the letters to the Speaker, the Chairman, and to the President.

The FOIA request I have been waiting for, I wonder how long it can be stalled.

Re; Disappointment about investigation of vote fraud.

The extant of the Congressmans' surprise is related to the exent to which investigators usually try to appear responsive when performing before those who sign the checks. The gloves may be coming off.

Second Data Point; Cunningham Investigation.

http://cunningham.house.gov/news/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=29491

Cunningham served in the U.S. Navy for twenty years and became one of the most highly decorated pilots in the Vietnam War. As the first fighter ace of the war, Cunningham was nominated for the Medal of Honor, received the Navy Cross, two Silver Stars, fifteen Air Medals, the Purple Heart, and several other decorations.

Cunningham serves on the Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education Appropriations subcommittee, He also serves on the Defense subcommittee, which provides funding for our national defense and armed services. In January 2005, he became Chairman of the Subcommittee on Human Intelligence Analysis and Counterintelligence on the House Select Committee on Intelligence.

Credentials don't get much better or jobs much more important. O.K, so he's a republican, but :

Question; How well does the Congressman know the Congressman?

Question; Whose side is he on, Loyalist or Rebel?

Question; Who is bringing the pressure on him, Democrat, Republican or Rebel?

Question; How often do Congressman get raided?

Question: Is somebody trying to get somebody USED to something?

Have no concern, paranoia is not contagious. You have to build your own case. Once you've built yours though, it gets tough to close your eyes. This can be a strain, but it's a good thing. You learn so much more about what's happening around you. And then it is not a surprise when the police screw you.

And this looks differant ; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/03/AR2005070300880.html

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Positive suggestion about building cases ; I suggest it might be helpful to add a page to this website.

That page to include :

1/ The list of questions asked the President.

2/ The answers found to date regarding those questions.

3/ The sources of those answers.

4/ A charaterization of those answers (Roumer/Hearsay/Evidence/Proof/Ironclad Proof)

5/ Other information as appropriate.

This may be helpful in charting progress, fixing the goalpost and making mission creep measurable.

I appreciate the opportunaty to make these comments.
Kertis



Comment #24: Kertis said on 7/6/05 @ 7:15am ET...

I agree with comments #13 & #18 above.

I think that once paranoia builds to a culturally appropriate level, my earlier comments regarding 1/The need to fillibuseter, 2/Trading the bird in hand for two in the Bush camp, 3/Section 3 amendment 14, U.S. Constitution, will make a lot more sense. These are not things you do because you are in control, no, you do them because you are not.

I appreciate this opportunaty.
Kertis



Comment #25: Patriot said on 7/6/05 @ 8:11am ET...

#23 Kertis - I will write the program for that if all of you will supply the information. This could be a wonderful and very rewarding group project.

I'd like to add that it's nice to see everyone drifting back to this blog. It's feeling good.



Comment #26: Nolip said on 7/6/05 @ 8:18am ET...

Comment #17 Sandra
Message received. All good stuff. Thanks! In the grand evolution of things, its comforting to know that while the so called "mainstream" media are not doing their job reporting on these events, modern technology has given us the internet to carry on this dialogue.
However, while we type, bodies are dropping in Iraq and America's reputation, in a good place post 9/11, has sunk to an all time low as a result of Bush's war of revenge (GW:"Saddam put a hit on my daddy and he's going to pay...I mean is that anyway to thank your handlers?") Not only are bodies dropping but human beings are maimed and tortured in the name of liberty. Will we stop the madness? Let's keep trying.



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Comment #29: Neerav Trivedi said on 7/6/05 @ 1:52pm ET...

Good work spreading the activism around to get Bush accountable, espeially my dear friend Sandra, who I am in touch with via e-mail.

Ignore the people like DUmmie and other freepers. The power of Truth is so overwhelming that it will knock them out.

Keep up the good work folks!



Comment #30: The_Man said on 7/6/05 @ 3:58pm ET...

Please, Let's all understand gravity of the points made in the congressional authorization for the use of force in Iraq. Furthermore, I offer the following questions:

1. Who are the authors of this legislation?

2. What intelligence reports, now deemed to be false, contributed to specific statements in this bill?

3. Where did those reports come from?

4. At what point did the President and his administration conclude that Iraq was in default of the provisions noted in this legislation?

5. Is this declaration Constitutional, based on the War Powers Act?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html

Obtained on 7-6-05

Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq

Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national security of the United States and enforce United Nations Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq;

Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism;

Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale biological weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development program that was much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than intelligence reporting had previously indicated;

Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire, attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998;

Whereas in 1998 Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in "material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations" and urged the President "to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations" (Public Law 105-235);

Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolutions of the United Nations Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;

Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of American citizens;

Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001 underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself;

Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 authorizes the use of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security Council Resolution 660 and subsequent relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to cease certain activities that threaten international peace and security, including the development of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687, repression of its civilian population in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688, and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in Iraq in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 949;

Whereas Congress in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1) has authorized the President "to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security Council Resolutions 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677";

Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it "supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1)," that Iraq's repression of its civilian population violates United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and "constitutes a continuing threat to the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region," and that Congress, "supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688";

Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;

Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United States to "work with the United Nations Security Council to meet our common challenge" posed by Iraq and to "work for the necessary resolutions," while also making clear that "the Security Council resolutions will be enforced, and the just demands of peace and security will be met, or action will be unavoidable";

Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of force if necessary;

Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding requested by the President to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001 or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take all appropriate actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States, as Congress recognized in the joint resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and

Whereas it is in the national security of the United States to restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region;

Now, therefore, be it resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SEC. 1. SHORT TITLE.

This joint resolution may be cited as the "Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq".

SEC. 2. SUPPORT FOR UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS

The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President to--

(a) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions applicable to Iraq and encourages him in those efforts; and

(b) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions.

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) AUTHORIZATION. The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to

(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq.

(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION.

In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon there after as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq, and

(2) acting pursuant to this resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorists attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

(c) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS. --

(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION. -- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS. -- Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

SEC. 4. REPORTS TO CONGRESS

(a) The President shall, at least once every 60 days, submit to the Congress a report on matters relevant to this joint resolution, including actions taken pursuant to the exercise of authority granted in section 2 and the status of planning for efforts that are expected to be required after such actions are completed, including those actions described in section 7 of Public Law 105-338 (the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998).

(b) To the extent that the submission of any report described in subsection (a) coincides with the submission of any other report on matters relevant to this joint resolution otherwise required to be submitted to Congress pursuant to the reporting requirements of Public Law 93-148 (the War Powers Resolution), all such reports may be submitted as a single consolidated report to the Congress.

(c) To the extent that the information required by section 3 of Public Law 102-1 is included in the report required by this section, such report shall be considered as meeting the requirements of section 3 of Public Law 102-1.



Comment #31: Sandra said on 7/6/05 @ 5:00pm ET...

Meeting as they are behind maximum security, watchtowers and layers of fencing, you would think that the G8 leaders were being held in Guantanamo Bay style conditions, which some of them more than others certainly deserve to be.

Instead they will discuss in complete opulence their profoundly undemocratic ruling of the world. We believe that the rulers of the world should change drastically, because under their stewardship it is only becoming a more dangerous, unjust and polluted place.

REV ARTHUR CHRISTIE, MONKTON AND PRESTWICK NORTH CHURCH



Comment #32: Jacques Graber said on 7/6/05 @ 5:01pm ET...

This man should never have a chance to simply clear his name. He has committed numerous crimes against the State and this would have to be his biggest. A man potentially on the verge of being indicted for Treason for revealing the identity of a fellow Federal Employee should have no more chance of clearing his name as any other Traitor. He must follow procedure and go on trial as should Bush for his lies to incite war, Cheney for a multitude of acts including trading with a Hostile Nation (Halliburton and the Iran oil ties) and Rumsfeld breaching the Geneva Conventions among others. The Three Stooges must be tried for Treason and Impeached simultaneously.
I trust Representative Conyers will have the tenacity and fortitude to pursue this to the bitter end.
He is a true American Patriot.



Comment #33: Sandra said on 7/6/05 @ 5:30pm ET...

Citizens for Legitimate Government; Excerpts of Interview with Ambassador Joseph Wilson

CLG: Who did you think was the source of the leak to Novak? Did you think that Rove was involved prior to the latest news? Do you think that Rove was indeed a source or the source?

JW: I wrote in my book that there was a conspiracy in the white house to find out everything they could about me and then use it against me. I think the logical place to look for the conspiracy is in the White House Iraq group (WHIG) which included Rove, Scooter Libby, Karen Hughes, Ari Fleischer and others. I don't know who among them might have been the leaker or authorized the leak.

~snip

JW: I have obviously followed the inquiries into 9/11 and I know Dick Clarke and Rand Beers very well but I am not an expert. I look to the "Jersey Girls" who have so assiduously pushed the case in the memory of their late husbands, for real understanding. I have great admiration for them and for what they have done. They are not satisfied, so neither am I.

~snip

JW: This is a radical regime, not a Republican administration. It is the most oppressive crowd I have ever seen and is a real threat to our republic. While I am not an expert in elections I can see how people might believe the last two elections were stolen. The lesson for the democrats is to stop rolling over and stand up for what you believe in. The republicans believe the democrats and the press are soft and can be pushed around and that is what they are doing. To the detriment of us all.

----

Update from Joseph Wilson, 06 July, 2005 3:23 PM EST

Statement of Joseph Wilson on the sentencing of New York Times reporter Judith Miller

The sentencing of Judith Miller to jail for refusing to disclose her sources is the direct result of the culture of unaccountability that infects the Bush White House from top to bottom. President Bush's refusal to enforce his own call for full cooperation with the Special Counsel has brought us to this point. Clearly, the conspiracy to cover up the web of lies that underpinned the invasion of Iraq is more important to the White House than coming clean on a serious breach of national security. Thus has Ms Miller joined my wife, Valerie, and her twenty years of service to this nation as collateral damage in the smear campaign launched when I had the temerity to challenge the President on his assertion that Iraq had attempted to purchase uranium yellowcake from Africa.

The real victims of this cover-up, which may have turned criminal, are the Congress, the Constitution and, most tragically, the Americans and Iraqis who have paid the ultimate price for Bush's folly.

read the full interview here:

http://www.legitgov.org/clg_interview_joseph_wilson_060705.html



Comment #34: LeslieB said on 7/6/05 @ 6:00pm ET...

Thank you Rep. Conyers for writing this letter and demanding answers from the Bush administration.

Whatever Rove's involvement, he wasn't alone. The Washington Post today wrote: "Fitzgerald may learn more details from Cooper's notes. Sources close to the investigation say there is evidence in some instances that some reporters may have told government officials—not the other way around—that Wilson was married to Plame, a CIA employee."

What's hard to believe about that is how could the Bush administration NOT know who Plame was or worked for? And, assuming they didn't know, shouldn't they have found out first before risking national security for a political hatchet job? Also, is WaPo implying that one of those reporters may have been Judith Miller? Because WaPo says that Miller spoke to Rove soon after Wilson published his article in July 2003, perhaps before Novak published his article 8 days later. Miller reportedly asked Rove about Plame and Wilson.

Meanwhile, who was behind the fake Niger documents, which lead to the outing of Plame in the first place?



Comment #35: Sandra said on 7/6/05 @ 6:06pm ET...

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear: Cicero Marcus Tullius - Born on January 3, 106 BC and was murdered on December 7, 43 BC.

http://www.iep.utm.edu/c/cicero.htm



Comment #36: Jonathan Gold said on 7/6/05 @ 6:24pm ET...

Here's a black and white version of the 9/11 Truth Movement flyer I posted earlier...

9/11 Truth Flyer



Comment #37: Jonathan Gold said on 7/6/05 @ 6:42pm ET...

FORMER BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL SAYS OFFICIAL 9/11 STORY IS 'BOGUS'

Washington Times
Click Here



Comment #38: Jonathan Gold said on 7/6/05 @ 6:58pm ET...

Karl Rove Publicly Denies Leaking CIA Identity

This is a clip taken from an interview Karl did on CNN during the Republican National Convention in New York City, 2004.

Click Here



Comment #39: Jonathan Gold said on 7/6/05 @ 7:56pm ET...

Here's the transcript...

Click Here



Comment #40: Hemingway said on 7/6/05 @ 8:26pm ET...

Dear Congressman Conyers,
It is both noble and admirable that you have taken it upon yourself to spearhead a movement to confront President Bush regarding the implications of the Downing Street Minutes. Even when action is in the best interest of our nation, far too many politicians bury their heads in the sand and go with the flow rather than go against the grain.

I’ve seen you as a guest on Bill Maher’s Real Time, and believe you are a man of integrity. Although I commend you for your efforts, you are trying to slay a dragon with a fly swatter. Please explain to me why Senators and Congressman alike refuse to challenge Geo W. Bush on issues with even more incriminating allegations and long-term consequences than the Downing Street Minutes? Surely these documents are merely the tip of the iceberg. There are so many unanswered questions regarding the war in Iraq and 911, and a simple search on the Internet will yield an avalanche of compelling data that suggests gross incompetence, conspiracy and treason. As is the case with any emotionally-charged, controversial topic, much of the information is hearsay, speculative or just plain melodramatic. However, much of it is credible and raises enough questions to justify a thorough investigation. Why aren’t you or any of your colleagues pursuing these issues with vigor and patriotic bravado?

Other than a handful of tenacious, independent journalists who unfortunately do not have the credentials to effect a formal inquiry, no one of authority has exposed or confronted the White House with this hard-to-ignore information. In particular, the Norad stand down that took place on September 11 reeks of foul play. That in itself is enough to launch a full-scale investigation. The Internet is littered with fact upon disturbing fact, question upon disturbing question that strongly suggests George W. Bush, Dick Chaney and other top officials purposely and with intent took measures to ensure that the 911 tragedy would not be foiled.

Our current administration has embroiled us in an immoral war with no clear exit plan in sight. To date, 1,800 American soldiers have died, we’ve slaughtered thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens, senselessly spent billions of dollars to support the war—money that should have been used to resolve domestic issues—did not pursue measures to prevent 911, and overall Geo W. and his henchmen have abused the power and authority of the Oval Office. The time has come for responsible Americans to take action. And you, Congressman Conyers, should vigorously lead the attack.



Comment #41: Jonathan Gold said on 7/6/05 @ 8:30pm ET...

Radio Broadcast Of Karl Schwarz & Me

Click Here



Comment #42: Jay Lechnyr said on 7/6/05 @ 8:46pm ET...

Sorry to rain on everyone's parade folks. But let's take a historical look at this. In every case where one of his friends came under fire, Bush backed him up. Every time Even when Rumsfeld was a political hot potato. Any other president would have dropped rummy long ago. Instead, Bush defends the man, even at the expence of his own popularity. When it comes to his friends, sacrifice is not in his vocabulary (neither is vocabulary). Loyalty is one of the main qualities that makes him so useful to the Saudi Family.

Karl Rove is a close personal friend of his, so what do you think Bush will do this time?
The pattern of responses is well established. Ignore, attack, obfuscate. The Bush Administration has travelled this road so many times, they wore ruts into it.

He's predictable, so we know what he's going to do, so how about some planning. He will ignore the letter until it starts hurting GOP leadership, and then his whole neo-con army attacks.
So instead of reacting to their assault, let's plan ahead.

How can we make this hurt the GOP leadership?
Who's up for reelection? And how can we force him to make a definitive stand on the matter?
(Perhaps by talking to his opposition into making accusations about him supporting a traitor?)



Comment #43: Jonathan Gold said on 7/6/05 @ 8:52pm ET...

You are correct about that... even if Karl Rove is prosecuted, he will still get pardoned by whomever is in office at the time.



Comment #44: Jay Lechnyr said on 7/6/05 @ 9:07pm ET...

In the meantime, here's one suggestion for action that all us citizens can do.

Read this story about citizens arrest warrants and about what they entail. We can bury D.C. under a blizzard of citizens arrest warrants against Mr Rove for treason. Imagine a quarter million arrest warrants issued nationwide.



Comment #45: norma said on 7/6/05 @ 9:33pm ET...

I am very disheartened because i think this is all futile.Karl Rove has made a career out of mean & dirty politics & George Bush condones his every action.Bush will never have to answer for getting us into an unnecessary war & Rove will never be charged with this leak.I think they have the CIA in their pocket & who can fight that.The press knows if they report anything contrary to Bush;they will be punished,so they have this country so locked up;we will be able to do nothing.



Comment #46: Jonathan Gold said on 7/6/05 @ 10:01pm ET...

NEVER GIVE UP!!!

I just contributed a story to www.rawstory.com

Click here to read about it.



Comment #47: Jonathan Gold said on 7/6/05 @ 10:16pm ET...

Ambassador Joseph Wilson Questions The Official Story Of 9/11

Click Here



Comment #48: stoufi1 said on 7/6/05 @ 10:36pm ET...

Hello, kiddies. I'm back.

You people are so entertaining. I was laughing through this whole comedy act. Especially after reading the 25th Amendment to the US Constitution, you know, the document continuously violated by the liberals. Anyway, the 25th Amendment says that if there is no Vice President (since you think he'd be impeached), the sitting President picks the next President is confirmed by majorities in both the House and Senate. This he does before stepping down, regardless of him being impeached or not. My guess is Condi Rice would be the next Prez. Hee hee hee hee hee.

So far in this blog, I've seen that I would violate someone's First Amendment right to free speech (why, when the comedy is so good). I've seen how George H. W. Bush was responsible for John Kennedy's assasination. I've seen where the US government (Bush in particular) is responsible for bringing down the WTC on 9/11. Conyers' own DSM "tea party" brought in an "intelligence expert" that said Israel was involved with 9/11. A commenter on this blog told me to "eat shit and live"; I've been eating the shit of liberalism for 40 years and survived. The paranoia surrounding these conspiracy theories is just amazing.

But I think I can help all of you. Read Michael Savage's "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" and you'll see that admitting the problem of liberalism is the first step towards a cure.

Conyers is a treasure of comedy. Three recent pieces of his activities include (in no particular order):

A bill on Hate Crimes. Admirable, but does it include the confessed murder of a white woman by an African-American man who said "the first person I see in this mall that looks white, I'm killing." as a hate crime?

Next came the waste of time and taxpayer money on the nothing that is the DSM.

And last but not least, his impeachable violation of the First Amendment regarding freedom of religion when he came out with his "Religious Intolerance" resolution that specifically references Islam seven times and the Koran three times. Was this something he had to do because of advice he might have received from Wahabbist members of the Saudi government or members of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)? Is there any way to find out if CAIR or Wahabbists contribute to Conyers' campaign? How much, if true?

Before I go, I will make a comment on his post called "O'Connor Retirement". I will add a really funny joke I heard today.

OK. So, how many of the commenters on this blog are operatives (spies) of the Al Qaeda scum? Come on, it sounds like some of them are here. Do any here work with or work for Zarqawi? How about those Wahabbists who may want to introduce Sharia into American law (and will fail, miserably), like they're trying to do in Canada and Europe?



Comment #49: Bill_o_Carolina said on 7/6/05 @ 11:27pm ET...

The only comedy I've seen here is Stoufi1's posts. But hey that's just me!



Comment #50: epppie said on 7/7/05 @ 1:15am ET...

Rep. Conyers is a beacon of light and hope.



Comment #51: Doug Eldritch said on 7/7/05 @ 1:25am ET...

Unfortunately for you stoufi, the only one who is a ranting raving comedy act is you.

There is sufficient evidence to implicate each of these matters, conspiracies and non-conspiracies in a district court or senate committee.

The reason none of that has been done, is it appears certain "officials" are content to coverup these crimes. But the people are no longer going to let them get away with it, and we will turn over every stone and bring out every rat.

Including any and all corrupt democrats which have become the visual stench of your own Tom DeLay salad-plate money launderer.

Look at the amazing behavior of the man you follow, stoufi:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/06/politics/06ethics.html?ei=5099&en=71283a63f9fa76b2&ex=1121227200&partner=TOPIXNEWS&pagewanted=print

Tell me, when did compassionate conservatism die out? Was it during the first burning of the bridge, or when fascism became "entertainment"?

Tell me indeed.

Doug E.



Comment #52: dawn said on 7/7/05 @ 2:27am ET...

"Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most
pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened."
Winston Churchill



Comment #53: Jo said on 7/7/05 @ 4:07am ET...

I wonder what kind of slimy "high ranking" government official would let other people go to jail to protect them. What kind of "high ranking "government official would endanger a CIA agent and her family,not to mention national security just because her husband wasn't playing good ol' boy and helping them fix the facts for a war that now has killed thousands of people. Whoever this "high ranking" official is I hope he/she is gone real soon.



Comment #54: Jay Lechnyr said on 7/7/05 @ 5:17am ET...

It's up to soufi1 to prove that the DSM is "nothing".

So how many Al Qaida spies are here? Only you, soufi1.

And as a matter of fact soufi, why dont you tell us why NORAD stood down on that day. You should tell us why no airplane was visible in the pentagon video tape. You tell us why there was no luggage or body parts found in the wreckage of the pentagon. You should explain how a jumbo jet could fly 80 feet over a major highway at maximum thrust and nobody could hear it.

Or was 9-11 just another one of your "nothings" that deserves no questions?



Comment #55: stoufi1 said on 7/7/05 @ 6:41am ET...

#51 Doug

At least you mention that Democrats are involved with Abramoff. That's better than the MSM. If DeLay or any Democrats committed crimes due to Abramoff's activities, as well as Abramoff himself, by all means they should be punished. We'll see what happens.

Compassionate conservatism died when Al Qaeda attacked the US on 9/11.

#54 Jay, read Savage's book. I believe it will help you. You'll find it on the NYT Best Seller section of your local bookstore.



Comment #56: Jay Lechnyr said on 7/7/05 @ 2:26pm ET...

There is no book by any savage on the NYT best sellers list.

My point is, or was, that in the absence of an independent investigation, there shall never be full consensus on what happened. All these "conspiratorial" leads were not followed up. So who's to say with absolute certainty that it happened exactly as someone said?



Comment #57: Shahram Vahdany said on 7/7/05 @ 3:02pm ET...

Something that baffles me here is that by experience we have noticed each time there is something that either is not exactly accurate or hard to prove this administration uses all their media and propaganda power for discredit the source of the news and their spin doctors take that ball and run with it for a long time.

Ambassador Joseph Wilson publicly and openly accuses Rove in this case. Yet neither him or his lawyers respond. White house secretary also in respond of a question that what president stands in this, replies " [I said it before that this is not true]" again asked by the reporter what president thinks. He replies again president is aware of what [I said.]and [I talked] with Rove and he denied having anything to do with this.

Emphasises are mine.

Shahram Vahdany



Comment #58: Neerav Trivedi said on 7/7/05 @ 3:31pm ET...

Hey Stofui1.....stuff it.

Hah, I made a pun.....oh, Sandra will strangle me for this.

Anyway, I am back folks. I have been readcing all of the posts so far, nad they are all very informative and entertaining.

Since I am back, you will hear from me again, especially since many of you haven't heard from me in a while. Sorry about that folks.....my apologies.

Anyway, let's teach this stofui to stuff it, and get on with our nation's buisness and the buisness of impeaching Bush over the Iraq War and getting Rove kicked out of the White House and jailed!

Keep up the good work everyone!!!



Comment #59: Sandra said on 7/7/05 @ 4:51pm ET...

I have not responded to the various emails from Free Press to release journalist Judith Miller because she is an enemy to the very foundation of democracy.

First Amendment rights are not guaranteed in a Federal Grand Jury investigation.

Let them keep her if she's willing to go to jail to protect the criminals in the White House!

Judith Miller should stay in jail until she talks! She has been an insider and a mouthpiece in this corrupt administration for too long.

(July 07, 2005 -- 01:20 AM EDT // link // print)
Remember, this isn't the first time Patrick Fitzgerald has tangled with Judy Miller in a leaks investigation of the Bush White House. I've posted more details at TPMCafe.

-- Josh Marshall

http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/7/7/1148/62336



Comment #60: Sandra said on 7/7/05 @ 4:52pm ET...

Comment #58: Neerav

Hello, and welcome back. I choose not to respond to the trolls. It's not worth my time or effort.



Comment #61: Anna Becker said on 7/7/05 @ 6:04pm ET...

When a nation has unscrupulous leaders who lie, cheat, misname and call names, and generally attempt to corrupt all legislative processes such as Carl Rove, Tom DeLay to name a few have done, they need to be held accountable by all Americans. These people are destroying our country and our constitution.



Comment #62: Neerav Trivedi said on 7/7/05 @ 8:05pm ET...

Comment #60: Sandra said on 7/7/05 @ 4:52pm ET...

Comment #58: Neerav

Hello, and welcome back. I choose not to respond to the trolls. It's not worth my time or effort.
----------------------------------

Except communicating via e-mail, I have been away fora while.

I missed you, sandra, and everyone here (minus the freepers like Hank - hey, where is he by the way?).

I'll be around if you need anything. Just click on my name nad send me an e-mail if you want me to look at anything or take action on something and foward it and spread the word on it. I'll be more than happy to help!!! =D



Comment #63: Rese said on 7/8/05 @ 2:29am ET...

I like the London Times report on this:Mr Cooper did not name the source, but The New York Times reported yesterday that his announcement followed discussions on Wednesday morning between lawyers representing Mr Rove and Time. The newspaper reported that “a person who has been officially briefed in the case” said that Mr Cooper was referring to Mr Rove as the source for his story about Ms Plame.

Robert Luskin, Mr Rove’s lawyer, acknowledged last week that his client had spoken to Mr Cooper in July 2003 about the Plame story, three or four days before her name became public. It is a criminal offence to identify a covert CIA operative. But his client denied telling any reporter that Ms Plame worked for the CIA. Mr Luskin said: “Cooper called Rove during that week . . . but Karl absolutely did not identify Valerie Plame.”

Adding to the confusion yesterday, Mr Luskin told The Washington Post that Mr Rove was not the source who called Mr Cooper on Wednesday morning. Mr Luskin said: “Karl has not asked anybody to treat him as a confidential source.” Mr Rove refused to comment on the report in The New York Times.

Ms Plame’s name and role as an undercover CIA agent was first revealed by Robert Novak, a conservative political columnist, in July 2003. Shortly before Mr Novak’s column appeared, Ms Plame’s husband, Joseph Wilson, a former ambassador, had publicly accused the Bush Administration of exaggerating the case for war with Iraq.

He based his assertion on a CIA-sponsored trip that he took to Niger to investigate claims made by Mr Bush in a State of the Union address that Iraq had tried to buy uranium from Niger. After Mr Wilson’s assertion that the Niger claim was bogus, Mr Novak revealed Ms Plame’s status, saying that her role as a secret CIA operative had been revealed to him by two senior Administration officials.

Several days after Mr Novak’s article appeared, Mr Cooper wrote in Time that “some Administration officials” had told him that “Valerie Plame is a CIA official who monitors the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction”.

The revelation sparked accusations that the Bush Administration had leaked the information to imply that Mr Wilson’s trip was a junket arranged by his wife and to discredit and unnerve Mr Wilson.

Mr Wilson and Democrats accused the White House of endangering Ms Plame for political purposes.

Under pressure, Mr Bush authorised a criminal investigation, headed by Patrick Fitz- gerald, a special counsel. Mr Fitzgerald’s investigation has included interviews with Mr Bush, Colin Powell, the former Secretary of State, Mr Rove, Vice-President Cheney’s chief of staff and several journalists, including Mr Novak.

Last week Ms Miller and Mr Cooper appeared to be the only reporters who had refused to co-operate. Ironically, Ms Miller made telephone calls on the Plame story but never wrote a piece.



Comment #64: Doug Eldritch said on 7/8/05 @ 3:37am ET...

Oh it's gotten good now....Karl Rove doesn't deny he's a traitor.

He just simply claims under certain circumstances, the identities were not revealed "knowingly".

How much you bet that, all reporters have named Rove as the leaker, including Cooper, and Miller is the only one who has a different source? Probably Felischer who got it from Bolton when he brought down CIA records to begin with.

Fitzergald knows how big the DSM scandal goes, congressman Conyers. I strongly suggest you get your republican and democrat friends to support signing him onto the case, especially in light of prosecution.

Doug E.



Comment #65: sienna said on 7/8/05 @ 10:41am ET...

Would like to know the significance of this story in the Wall Street Journal. Is this an attempt to innoculate the administration via a press shield law? Note the sponsors.

US Senate to hold hearings on reporter protection bill
From Wall Street Journal, July 7, 2005

WASHINGTON (AP)—The Senate Judiciary Committee could be the next stop for the those involved in the federal probe into who exposed undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame as it weighs a bill that would protect reporters who refuse to identify their sources.

Those called to testify could include the media outlets and the prosecutor in the case, in which New York Times reporter Judith Miller was jailed Wednesday. Plame’s identity was first revealed publicly in a column by Robert Novak.

“If they would be interested in coming to testify, I think it would be informative and possibly useful,” said Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, a former Texas Supreme Court judge and state attorney general.

Despite a pending Supreme Court nomination, Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., has said the media shield bill -sponsored by Sen. Dick Lugar, R-Ind. -is one of several he expects to come before his committee this month. A spokesman said Wednesday the hearing is tentatively set for July 20 and that a witness list still is being worked out with Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy, the panel’s top Democrat.

Cornyn said Specter and Leahy would want testimony from those “in the best position to know about all sides of the issue.”

The American Society of Newspaper Editors’ board of directors voted on Wednesday to endorse the idea of a national shield law for reporters to protect them from having to reveal the names of their confidential sources.

A Time magazine reporter who barely escaped being sent to jail Wednesday said the grand jury probe into who leaked Plame’s identity makes the case for such a law.

“I think this clearly points out the need for some kind of a national shield law. There is no federal shield law and that is why we find ourselves here today,” said Time’s Matthew Cooper.

He spoke as Miller was jailed for refusing to tell U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald who leaked Plame’s name to her.

The bill, sponsored in the House by Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., would require prosecutors and judges to meet strict national standards and exhaust other remedies before they could subpoena reporters. No hearings are scheduled in the House.

Thirty-one states and the District of Columbia have such “shield” laws, but there is no set of standards that applies in the federal courts.



Comment #66: Hemingway said on 7/10/05 @ 8:56pm ET...

Comments for stoufi:

I don’t think there’s anything comical about what’s being discussed on this blog. Unless of course you find humor in the deaths of over 1,800 American soldiers, thousands of Iraqi civilians, the victims of 9/11 or the billions of dollars wasted on a war with no viable objective or benefit. What truly amazes me is the myopia that exists in conservative thinkers. They follow their leaders like sheep; gobbling up the lies, ignoring the obvious, all for the sake of patriotism. Democracy cannot be perpetuated without political discourse. To accept what government tells us without question is tantamount to treason. To quote Adolph Hitler: “What good fortune for those in power that the people do not think.”

It is an easy task for government to justify war. All that’s necessary is to create a threat (9/11) and accuse those who question their motives as unpatriotic. But these issues are not really a divide between liberals and conservatives; it is more a conflict between morally conscious Americans and those blinded my misguided patriotism. When did it become so unfashionable and unpatriotic to care about people; to abhor war; to be concerned about the environment; to challenge our leaders’ motives?

Our president stood before the nation and declared that we would not leave Iraq until the Iraqi military was fully prepared to defeat the insurgents. The only reason the insurgents are in Iraqi is because it’s occupied by Americans. They have no other reason to be there. By invading Iraq, we have given extremists a common battleground for them to kill us.

Instead of bashing liberals, stoufi, you should expend some energy placing the war in Iraq and the details of 9/11 under a microscope. You may discover that those opposing the war and questioning the textbook explanation of 9/11 ain’t as crazy as you think.



Comment #67: pita said on 7/12/05 @ 9:50am ET...

"This being a recess week, it will be somewhat difficult to obtain co-signatories...."

Wondering if we could get an update with names of Representatives who have signed on so that we can persue those who have not?


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