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Blogged by JC on 06.16.05 @ 10:25 PM ET

What a Day!
Keep the Signatures Coming


I have four categories of things to tell you – three general and one detailed.

First, I could not have achieved the milestone of today’s hearing, letter delivery and other events without your help. DSM is a function of the blogosphere, and throughout the process I have benefitted immeasurably from your comments and support.

Second, today we made abundantly clear, that when rights are being trampled on by the Administration, Democrats will not sit idly by and watch. We can and will act, we can and will investigate, we can and will hold hearings, we can and will take these investigations wherever they lead us.

Third, in terms of my on-line letter, I welcome more signatures, and I will see that every last one is delivered to the president.

Fourth, in terms of the specifics of the day, see below:

• Our long awaited hearing on the Downing Street Minutes was scheduled to begin at 2:30 PM in HC-9 in the basement of the Capitol. This is one of the smallest meeting rooms in the Capitol complex, holding only about 50 people, but was the only room available to us as a result of the GOP’s refusal to make any normal hearing rooms available to us. I got to the hearing at 2PM, and witnessed a phalanx of about ten cameras in the room, with 4 or five more outside the room. There were an additional twenty or so print reporters. About 100 more people – including numerous live bloggers – showed up at our overflow room at the DNC.

• At approximately 2:15 PM, the Republicans scheduled 11 consecutive floor votes, lasting until approximately 4 PM. This is unprecedented in my memory, and if we had allowed it to, it could have ruined the hearing. But a hearty group of Democratic Members helped me carry on, and we were able to continue the hearings through the votes by essentially taking turns running back and forth to the House floor.

• The hearing itself was amazingly informative, moving and informational. Raw Story has my opening statement (along with much more). The witnesses were well informed and helped us create a tremendous record moving forward. Their basic testimony continued until approximately 3 PM, and was followed by a round of questions from most of the 30 members who joined us at one point or another. We also had a surprise guest in the form of Ann Wright, who resigned from the State Department before the start of the Iraq war due to her believe that the intelligence was being fixed and manipulated. At the very end of the hearing all of the family members of deceased soldiers stood up and spoke out. They showed tremendous courage. Bradblog has a great lowdown of the entire hearing, including an audio feed. C-SPAN broadcast live and simulcast and will rebroadcast over the next several days. Radio Pacifica broadcast audio live, and Air America and Randi Rhodes cut in frequently. There was quite a bit of talk among the Members that we had crossed the tipping point on the DSM, and that further disclosures and activism would have a commutative effect on the White House and public opinion. We finished the hearing about 5:30.

• Of course we were not done. About ten members and I proceeded to caravan over to the White House, where we delivered the letter signed by more than 560,000 Americans and 122 Members of Congress demanding answers. There were several hundred protestors at the White House along with least a dozen cameras.. In front of all of these witnesses, the White House staff refused to permit any of us to enter. They did take the petitions, but I would think that sitting Members of Congress deserve a bit more respect.

• There is more. We next proceeded to a rally in front of several hundred more people at LaFayette Park. Many of the witnesses spoke there, along with my friend Tom Hayden and the Members of Congress who had joined me at the White House delivery. Finally, we had to stop as the GOP had scheduled yet more votes on the House floor.

There is much, much more to come, the least of which is we will not stop with this hearing. But I’m exhausted now, so I’ll stop.

Replies: 778 Comments


Comment #1: Markus said on 6/16/05 @ 10:34pm ET...

And well you should be, Mr. Conyers!

You make our democracy proud today.

It's hard to deny the machinations of this administration when everything is presented all together, and I think your choice of witnesses served to provide a broader view of how everything that relates to the DSM fits into the architecture of the whole.

You lived up to your promise, Sir, and I, for one thank you.

We are, no doubt, unsure what we can or should do next.

You can bet we'll have an eye on you, and know that we are standing with you and your peers.

Thank you for standing up.



Comment #2: Anne Tyler said on 6/16/05 @ 10:37pm ET...

God Bless you Mr. Conyers for your patriotism and courage in investigating this matter. I watched the hearings on C-span and will watch the re-runs. The major newspapers need to cover this as well. Please keep up the good work.



Comment #3: ljm said on 6/16/05 @ 10:38pm ET...

You deserve some rest Mr. Conyers, you did good today, angels on your pillow and sweet dreams!



Comment #4: Pat said on 6/16/05 @ 10:38pm ET...

Thanks for all that you do Congressman Conyers. Keep on seeking the truth, and hold this administration accountable. Our country and especially our troops deserve to know the truth. Thanks and GOD Bless.



Comment #5: Gerald said on 6/16/05 @ 10:42pm ET...

I'm with you until the end, Mr. Conyers. LET CONYERS IN!!!



Comment #6: James said on 6/16/05 @ 10:43pm ET...

That you and your colleagues were not allowed at the White House is unbelievable, unforgivable, and un-American. Referring to the Bush regime as facist is not hyperbole it is unfortunately the truth.

Thanks for standing up to the facists.



Comment #7: Cynthia said on 6/16/05 @ 10:50pm ET...

MCNBC ran a poll this evening. Question: Do you believe President Bush misled the nation in order to go to war with Iraq? * 11018 responses

94% Yes
6% No

Thank you for standing up for the truth, Mr Conyers. The American people are waking up!



Comment #8: Cheryl said on 6/16/05 @ 10:50pm ET...

Today, I was proud to be a democrat. The Rebublicans have shown themselves to be un-American, disrespectful, rude bullies. But that will change. Mr. Conyers, you along with your Democratic colleagues are standing up to them and standing up for us. You are true Americans. Keep up the good work. We in Pennsylvania are with you.



Comment #9: Jean said on 6/16/05 @ 10:51pm ET...

I cannot express my pride and gratitude enough. Thank you Mr. Conyers.



Comment #10: David said on 6/16/05 @ 10:52pm ET...

Congressman Conyers,

Thank you for all that you are doing for this country.



Comment #11: Cynthia said on 6/16/05 @ 10:52pm ET...

Sorry, that's MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8248969/



Comment #12: warpspasm said on 6/16/05 @ 10:52pm ET...

Congressman Conyers, Thank you! I felt proud today to be an American, it's been along time since I've had that feeling.



Comment #13: Grace Reid said on 6/16/05 @ 10:53pm ET...

Congressman,
if you had 150,000 confirmed signatures to deliver today... how many unconfirmed signatures did you have?

I am thrilled to bits at the way things went today, and I want the transcripts of the hearing ASAP.

But for myself, I will not be satisfied until you have 10,000,000 signatures on your letter. So my little group within AfterDowningStreet.org are already planning for phase two.

Yours in solidarity,

GR



Comment #14: Lynda Flood said on 6/16/05 @ 10:54pm ET...

All I can say is Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!



Comment #15: James said on 6/16/05 @ 10:55pm ET...

Oops! Of course I meant faScist.
Thanks again for standing up to the FASCISTS!



Comment #16: Robert said on 6/16/05 @ 10:58pm ET...

Thank you Mr. Conyers for restoring my hope in the future of our country. As a young college student I know I speak for many of my generation when I express gratitude for your actions today. We're with you all the way.



Comment #17: Robert Serrato said on 6/16/05 @ 11:00pm ET...

Thank you John Conyers. God Bless You.



Comment #18: HHH said on 6/16/05 @ 11:01pm ET...

Thank you Mr. Conyers for giving us Republicans a good laugh and showing Americans just how loony you fools are.



Comment #19: Joe said on 6/16/05 @ 11:01pm ET...

Thanks for everything you have done Congressman Conyers. The hearings were terrific and set the stage for many people out in America to become aware of what this administration has done to our country.

Keep up the good work and consider orginizing a large march or something along those lines because many of us would love to do more to help you and our country.

John Conyers is a real American hero!



Comment #20: Markus said on 6/16/05 @ 11:05pm ET...

Folks, let's just agree right now to avoid the trolls.

What we witnessed today with Mr. Conyers' hearing ... pardon me, forum is confirmation enough that we have both The Law and Righteousness on our side.



Comment #21: Linda said on 6/16/05 @ 11:05pm ET...

What an inspiration today's hearing was! I feel more hopeful for the future of our country than anytime during the past 4 1/2 years.
Thank you for providing an outlet where truth can be told.



Comment #22: Kenneth R. Jackson CPO USN Ret. said on 6/16/05 @ 11:05pm ET...

Dear Congressman Coyners,

Today you brought honor back to the Congress.. You may have been in a broom closet, but as the good book says, Jesus was born in a cattle shed and in the manger! Honor can be found in the most unlikely places and spread from there... You, honor me and others like me who served our country when in need asking nothing but to serve.. You did the same and make me so very proud.. You bring honor, and patriotism to the fore with your actions and I only wish that you were my Representative here.. As far as I am concerned you have no equal... If anyone deserves the medal of freedom it is you! Bravo Zulu Shipmate!!! I would serve with you anywhere, anytime!!

Kenneth R. Jackson
CPO USN Ret.
Naturalized French and Proud of it!
Born American, and today, Proud of it also!



Comment #23: Q said on 6/16/05 @ 11:10pm ET...

Too bad the hearing wasn't on all the cable news channels. America needs to see how nuts you left-wingers really are.



Comment #24: Dr. Eldritch said on 6/16/05 @ 11:10pm ET...

I simply must chime in here...

Congressman Conyers,

Thank you for taking the initiative on these historic matters. This nation has only made progress and sloughed off malicious actors through the efforts of people like yourself who have stood soundly on their principles and weathered the derision heaped upon them by those whose personal fortunes rested upon their failure.
Despite the devisive and vitriolic condemnations from supporters of this administration you have persevered for all of those who are fearful of watching their beloved democracy slip away.
Despite what the supporters of this administration may say, they would cherish the advocacy of a representative such as yourself.
It is simply sad that many haven't the ability to picture the 'shoe on the other foot'.

So thank you, Mr. Conyers, for standing with those who see clearly, but have little other recourse than to turn to a fighter and a hero who gives hope that the truth will come to light, and the dark future we are facing may fade.

-Dr. Garth Eldritch



Comment #25: Dan said on 6/16/05 @ 11:14pm ET...

I hereby revoke the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Tenet, Franks, and Bremer, and do present it anew to Sen. J. Conyers!

Thank You.



Comment #26: DUmmie said on 6/16/05 @ 11:14pm ET...

OMFG!!!! TEH BUSHCO IS GOIN DOWN NOW!!

IM LIEK CRYING RITE NOW!!!111

THANK U MR CONERS!!!111



Comment #27: Reason said on 6/16/05 @ 11:15pm ET...

Are you all dumb? Did anyone but me read the memo?

Oh yeah.....this will get Bush out! Vague comments with suggestions of what was "really" the train of thought, and pretending to read the mind of Bush. Yeah, that'll sell as hard evidence. It's practically a written confession, signed by Cheney.

We've got 'em now!

No wonder the Republicans control everything. Supreme Court is next.....

But hey! Maybe we can have an impeachment proceeding! Woo-hoo.

Yeah, that's the ticket!



Comment #28: teledude said on 6/16/05 @ 11:17pm ET...

Whoa... you guys realize that without control of the Senate of House...this is all just play acting and nothing will come of it? You are setting yourselves up for yet another heartbreaking disappointment... it is kinda fun to watch, though...



Comment #29: Sam said on 6/16/05 @ 11:19pm ET...

Actually, if anyone actually bothered to read the documents from Downing Street, it basically absolves Bush of lying about WMDs.

There are several quotes from US and British intelligence and ministers, that express their concern about Saddam using WMDs on the troops and Israel.

Now, why would they be worried about non-existent WMDs?

But, you liberals get an A+ for effort!

LMFAO!



Comment #30: discouraged in denvoid said on 6/16/05 @ 11:20pm ET...

Representative, today I looked up "HERO" in the encyclopedia, and there was ... Your picture! ^_^ Your tenacity gives me the impetus to keep slogging on.

I'd like you to know that while you were delivering our names to the White House, a group of us in Denver were taking letters to our local media, asking them to do their jobs, and that we are now watching them. Our chants and signs were greeted with honks and waves and thumbs up as we walked along the streets. Many of these people who greeted us have no knowledge of the DSM, but they will soon know what you have accomplished and will come to respect you as we have.

God bless you!

d in d



Comment #31: Claire said on 6/16/05 @ 11:20pm ET...

Congressman Conyers,

Thank you so much for all the hard work you've put in on this subject, and thank you for your tireless work in uncovering the neverending crime coming from the White House.

You are an AMAZING public servant. Keep fighting the good fight. :)

Much love and good karma coming your way,
Claire



Comment #32: H.R. Smith said on 6/16/05 @ 11:22pm ET...

Ahhh... behold the sight of a party going absolutely bonkers.The Downing Street memo,is what number in the Democrat plan to bring down this administration?
It is just amazing to see what a lust for power will do to a once great party.At what price will you go to gain your majority back?Will it be impeaching the President, or do you want to take the country down the drain also?
What a sad thing to witness,this is why more and more moderates are moving out of the party.The 60 radicals idea worked at one time, the American people can see it for what it is!



Comment #33: Mike said on 6/16/05 @ 11:23pm ET...

God bless you, sir. Seeing the face of your honorable colleagues, and those of your distinguished witnesses, was food for the soul, even before the effect of the words has been fully realized.

Thank you!



Comment #34: M.Bailey said on 6/16/05 @ 11:23pm ET...

Thank you Congressman Conyers. Shine that bright light on those criminals and thugs running this country into hell in a hand basket.It's time for investigations and impeachment. The Bu$h thugs have done enough damage and it's time for them to GO! I want a real President again,not a Forrest Gump jack booted thug who went AWOL. Bu$h is the WORST pRESIDENT EVER! We are all supporting you Congressman Conyers!



Comment #35: James said on 6/16/05 @ 11:26pm ET...

Wow! Check out the trolls! We have definately struck a nerve so lets dig in deeper. Thanks for the encouragement!



Comment #36: Emily said on 6/16/05 @ 11:27pm ET...

I loved today Mr. Conyers! You were the best!! Thank you so much for all you've done today! The hardest working man in DC! Thank you for being a hero! <3 ya!



Comment #37: Candace D. said on 6/16/05 @ 11:30pm ET...

Thank you Congressman. Too bad we don't have someone with the kind of compassion and honesty in the White House that you have. You are our NIGHT IN SHINING ARMOR! God bless you.



Comment #38: Joe said on 6/16/05 @ 11:34pm ET...

H.R. Smith -

There is nothing "moderate" in lying to Congress in order to start an illegal war. Presidents should be held accountable for their actions. If you believe that a President has a right to lie in order to start an endless war, you should probably walk away from the Democratic party right now, because that is NOT what we stand for.



Comment #39: Mike Hunt said on 6/16/05 @ 11:36pm ET...

Please increase your efforts!! Put more pressure on them. Besides Howard Dean, you're really helping to get MORE Republicans get elected in 2006. GREAT WORK!!



Comment #40: M. Bailey said on 6/16/05 @ 11:38pm ET...

Yes,the Freeptards are out hot and heavy tonight. They are worried,as they should be because their Boy King is going DOWN!!!! LOL Dig deeper is right. I already found out things tonight watching the DSM hearing that I didn't know before,and I can only IMAGINE the sordid things they have been covering up. It's despicable what this lying bunch in the White House has done.This scandal makes Watergate look like Kindergarten.



Comment #41: Markus said on 6/16/05 @ 11:39pm ET...

You know ... I am starting to believe we have, in fact, struck a nerve.



Comment #42: Kira said on 6/16/05 @ 11:40pm ET...

Hey you rightwingnuts!

Six members of the D.C. chapter of Freerepublic.com held a small counter-protest in support of Bush's policies.

Where were you? They sure looked weak in their teensy-weensy protest supporting bush.

Shame on you, you slackards.

Haha!



Comment #43: GordonH said on 6/16/05 @ 11:41pm ET...

Okay, I'm not satisfied hand delivering 640,000 or 10,000,000 signatures to the Bush house on Pennsylvania Ave. I'm not even satisfied with 105 or 250 Congressmen delivering on the letter.

Okay, sorry..., Congressman Conyers, you are the tops. I was never prouder to be a Democrat, to stand, or to watch CSpan while you lead the beginning charge on the Bush monstrosity. You are so awesome..., get some rest, take a deep breath and hold on. The American Revolution was begun right there in that crowded little room.

Now! I am just so disgusted with the delivery process of those petitions and the obvious contempt that the Bushies have for every single signature on them.

Isn't it about time that 1700 lawsuits be filed directly against the commander in chief declaring deception and misdeeds in luring their children into harms way in an illegally declared war. No, not a class action, but 1700 individual lawsuits, 1700 wrongful death charges filed against Bush and company. Oh wait, I forgot to include the other 10,000 or more that were injured through deception. Oh, wait, maybe the families of the 100,000 Iraquis that have been killed need to have a few good lawyers filing lawsuits against the monster regime.

I mean, they created a war based on false premises, and the Downing Street Memos show it, and they don't even bother to deny it! It's time to take them to the cleaners. Don't you think so? Time to hit them with something that puts them up against the wall.

Onward Congressman Conyers! You are an American Hero!
Gh



Comment #44: Adam said on 6/16/05 @ 11:41pm ET...

First congressman, I'd like to thank you.

Second, I'd like to remind of Ghandi. Today Scott McClellan mocked the DSM. Wasn't it Ghandi who said "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

With your help, the American people are going to win.



Comment #45: Emily said on 6/16/05 @ 11:44pm ET...

Only six Kira? Did they have any porterpotties around?



Comment #46: Steve said on 6/16/05 @ 11:46pm ET...

I was very proud of the Democrats today. This is the start of a battle to take our country back from the Radicals who now control it. The extremists are obviously getting nervous judging by a couple of the comments on this thread. Let's keep the pressure on! Great job Mr Conyers and the rest of the House members who took part. We respect and admire you!



Comment #47: Cindy Montgomery said on 6/16/05 @ 11:47pm ET...

You are a true American patriot Mr. Conyers. I was at the rally today and was never more proud of being a progressive as I was today. You made us all proud. Please keep fighting...we are with you.



Comment #48: Mike Hunt said on 6/16/05 @ 11:47pm ET...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... the dopes think that making fun is really ... ooohhhhhhhhh fear. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That's so precious.



Comment #49: August said on 6/16/05 @ 11:48pm ET...

Thank you for having the courage that so few have as to stand up against these bullies. I love and agree with every thing you are doing but I do have one request for you. Can you please include in your interviews and addresses the link between this administration and PNAC? Without this I do not think that many people will be able to understand the underlying force behind these lies and murders. When you understand PNAC's goals it all makes sense. Please tell everyone you know about PNAC. Thank you and we are behind you 100%



Comment #50: Joe said on 6/16/05 @ 11:49pm ET...

Adam-

Great quote. I can't wait for the "fight". We are struggling for what is good - peace, justice, and the truth.



Comment #51: JMcH said on 6/16/05 @ 11:50pm ET...

Yeah, I'm sure the list of worthless e-signatures with names like Bea O'Problem, Jock Strop and Ivana Tinkle will carry a lot of weight with President Bush. lol! So how many trees were killed to print up this garbage?



Comment #52: Mike Hunt said on 6/16/05 @ 11:50pm ET...

Could be that most Republicans have JOBS? Guess if we were on welfare or unemployment or lived with our parents, we'd have time to protest frivilous stuff, too.



Comment #53: CJ said on 6/16/05 @ 11:50pm ET...

WHAT AN AMAZING DAY!

I taped the "Downing Street Minutes" Hearing... then Republicans AND Democrats together calling for the withdraq from Iraq! Plus, reporters GRILLING Scott McClellan.

THANK YOU!
THANK YOU!
THANK YOU!

"I" am John Conyers



Comment #54: Joe said on 6/16/05 @ 11:51pm ET...

Hey Mike Hunt - you are afraid. You cannot refute our evidence of conspiracy, so you sit there acting as if it is all a joke. In reality, you know deep down that support and tolerance for Bush is dwindling.



Comment #55: Robert Smathers said on 6/16/05 @ 11:52pm ET...

I too was at the rally and have haven't seen that much enthusiasm in a very long time. We must demand the bushies answer to this. We must not let up and keep hammering away and make them answer for their war crimes. Now this ia a REAL high crime and misdeamnor...unlike Clinton's BJ..bush's crimes sure put all that in perspective. Keep it up Senator Conyers...you rock !



Comment #56: CJ said on 6/16/05 @ 11:55pm ET...

BREAKING:

Mike Nunt's really Rush Limpballs.

Are you out of "medication" again your pill-popping Excellency?



Comment #57: matt said on 6/16/05 @ 11:56pm ET...

It is simply WONDERFUL seeing Democrats flailing around, trying to grab onto ANY source of traction with the American voters. Dean can't raise money, all of Bush's nominees are elected, and now this.

Yes, now news that Zawahiri has admitted to personally visiting a terrorist camp in Iraq, 1999, one with a Boeing 707 (I wonder why?). And let's not forget that was one reason the President wanted to invade Iraq - President Clinton. But it's all Bush's fault.

And those 'non-existant' WMD that killed thousands of Kurds and Iranians. And those decade-long sanctions by the UN because Iraq never told the truth about them. Or, perhaps, because the deal between the UN and Iraq was just too sweet. But it's all Bush's fault.

Yes, let it all remain what it has remained for the Democratic party, distractions hiding the vacuum of values, policy, and validity. Continue the fight Mr. Conyers, and we'll see a +60 majority in the Senate next year! And then it will all be Bush's fault!



Comment #58: Fritz said on 6/16/05 @ 11:56pm ET...

I used to be a die hard conservative until this war. I don't understand how anyone can support Bush after reading the DSM(s) Mike Hunt you are truly running scared and I can't blame you..being a Bush supporter can't be easy these days. Every person who truly cares about this country should be appalled at the lies and manipulation by this adminstration to start their war. Oh and Mike here is a link for you....www.goarmy.com



Comment #59: Red Haggis said on 6/16/05 @ 11:57pm ET...

You are a blessing sir. Thank you very much for your efforts to bring the truth to light. All should take note of your bravery and honesty! With a coward and a liar calling himself president (so too the VP- the master of puppets) of this great country, you have now risen above the noise to bring the people a voice to be heard. This is an extremely devious dangerous group of men we are dealing with. Yet I have renewed faith that we will break down their lies, and expose them as the bastards they truly are. Continue to call for an ROI...and good luck!! Blessings to you Congressman Conyers, you are a good man. RH~



Comment #60: Faith said on 6/16/05 @ 11:57pm ET...

Thank you, JC, for your courage and tenacity in bringing the truth to the American people. It's obvious that you and your colleagues need the help and support of the American people as much as we need you to hold this administration accountable for their actions.
As a team, we can stand together to create the changes that will make us proud of this country again.
God bless you in your efforts.



Comment #61: Fritz said on 6/16/05 @ 11:57pm ET...

I used to be a die hard conservative until this war. I don't understand how anyone can support Bush after reading the DSM(s) Mike Hunt you are truly running scared and I can't blame you..being a Bush supporter can't be easy these days. Every person who truly cares about this country should be appalled at the lies and manipulation by this adminstration to start their war. Oh and Mike here is a link for you....www.goarmy.com



Comment #62: Scott Games said on 6/16/05 @ 11:59pm ET...

Honorable Representative Conyers,

It is an odd feeling for someone who most always has something to say, but I am having a hard time finding something to say about what you did on this day.

I tracked your activity as best I could this week through our website, and at some point, it occurred to me that you were reminding me of what it is to be a representative of the people. It is sad that we often forget, but sometimes it takes a leader to guide the direction. We on the web will do our best to keep this story alive, but do not underestimate what your leadership adds in terms of energy to that end.

"I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people will get to the promised land. And I'm happy, tonight. I'm not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord."

Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Memphis, TN
April 3, 1968

May the truth and dignity give you strength, my friend.

Scott Games
Atlanta, GA
www.liberal-bias.com



Comment #63: Mike Hunt said on 6/17/05 @ 12:01am ET...

Evidence? That's evidence? Wow, why didn't John Kerry get to the bottom of it as he promised almost 2 weeks ago?

Fritz, I'm a disabled vet, so stuff your link up your ...

And yeah, I'm really scared. HAHAHA

BTW, shout the name Mike Hunt REALLY LOUD.



Comment #64: Cindy said on 6/17/05 @ 12:02am ET...

MATT sounds like you are running scared too. Btw, Dean has broken records for fundraising- more money raised in a non-election year than ever before and 20,000 NEW members to the DNC. Also the night the media started hammering him once again, donations were 100K in just 24 hours. Before the repukes out fundraised us 3-1 ..now under Dean it 2-1. But keep apologizing for that murderer in the WH..we will take honest and true Americans like Dean anytime.



Comment #65: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 12:03am ET...

Mike Nunts posting under multiple Screen Names. A few Republicans many be forgiven for their ignorance after Bush is Impeached... but people like this Mike Hunt should be tried for high TREASON right along with Bush.



Comment #66: Ohiodem1 said on 6/17/05 @ 12:04am ET...

This is only the beginning. The weapons of mass distraction will be brought out over the next few weeks, and we cannot be deterred by them.

Look for the Radican Republican Sleaze Machine to go into high gear with personal insults, name-calling, whispering campaigns, sleazy attacks on the Clintons (Hillary is a Lesbian and Bill Raped Hillary to conceive Chelsea), miraculous progress on the terrorism front (see ABC News this evening re: inside the hunt for Osama bin Laden), disruption of Conyers' hearing by odd scheduling of 11 votes on amendments, more McClellan acting as Baghdad Bob, denying the truth in front of him.

The White House has already announced a two week blitzkreig of "education" for the public regarding how the war is accomplishing all of the Bush goals.

This is only the start, Mr. Conyers, keep up the pressure, America is behind you.



Comment #67: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 12:04am ET...

Mike Nunts posting under multiple Screen Names. A few Republicans many be forgiven for their ignorance after Bush is Impeached... but people like this Mike Hunt should be tried for high TREASON right along with Bush.

"I" am John Conyers!



Comment #68: Berni said on 6/17/05 @ 12:05am ET...

Congressman Conyers,
Thank you for your bravery and patriotism. America deserves answers on this issue and I am proud that you have the courage and persistence to seek the truth.



Comment #69: SEOhio said on 6/17/05 @ 12:06am ET...

Thank you so much Mr. Conyers for standing up for the American people. You are a true patriot. Keep up the fight, and we'll be behind you the entire way.



Comment #70: Fritz said on 6/17/05 @ 12:06am ET...

Mike, you dolt..it takes longer thn two weeks to investigate these crimes. And sure you are a veteran..we all know republicans just talk war, not actually fight in them.



Comment #71: Red Haggis said on 6/17/05 @ 12:07am ET...

"Evidence? That's evidence? Wow, why didn't John Kerry get to the bottom of it as he promised almost 2 weeks ago?

Fritz, I'm a disabled vet, so stuff your link up your ...

And yeah, I'm really scared. HAHAHA

BTW, shout the name Mike Hunt REALLY LOUD."

-------------------------------------

With respect Mr. Cunt, we can tell what your disability is. Sorry about the mess in your head.



Comment #72: matt said on 6/17/05 @ 12:08am ET...

Hey Cindy,

Believe me, I love Dean as much as you. He is doing more for the Republican party that any Republican is! Just the quotes alone will make some great ads in 2006!

Dean:"The Republican Party is all white christians!"
Dean:"I hate Republicans!"
(narrator)"So the question is, why does the chair of the Democratic party hate white Christians?"
(Paid for by the Republican Party)
Dean:"YEAAAAAAAAAARG!"

Running scared? I hope those 20,000 new DNC members aren't the usual college students voting for LaRouche!

Too easy.



Comment #73: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:08am ET...

I used to be a die hard liberal until the Dems gave Clinton a pass on his felony of lying under oath. I'm glad I'm no longer a liberal in this day of trumped up and just plain false charges against President Bush. We're not running scared. We're laughing our butts off at moonbat stunts. Everything you've tried to nail President Bush on has FAILED: "Bush stole the election!" Sorry. "Bush knew about 9/11 before it happened!" Nope. "Bush illegally invaded Afghanistand and Iraq to get oil!" Still waiting. "Bush stole the election again!" *yawn* "Bush is torturing prisoners at Gitmo! Bush flushed Korans down the toilet! Bush manipulated intelligence to justify invading Iraq!" *snoring*

You guys should be used to disappointment by now.



Comment #74: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 12:11am ET...

THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS SAYING:

"I" am John Conyers!

(Dear Congressman Conyers, Please feel free to use this in your next television ad. Thank You!



Comment #75: Emily said on 6/17/05 @ 12:12am ET...

Dean has raised more money then McAullife ever did. We're flowing with cash! And general Clark is kicking ass on faux.



Comment #76: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:13am ET...

Comment #70: Fritz said on 6/17/05 @ 12:06am ET...

Mike, you dolt..it takes longer thn two weeks to investigate these crimes. And sure you are a veteran..we all know republicans just talk war, not actually fight in them.

------------------------------------------------

Yeah, that explains why the overwhelming majority of soldiers vote Republican (or they would if you Democrats would stop throwing out their absentee ballots).



Comment #77: Mike Hunt said on 6/17/05 @ 12:13am ET...

Ouch, that disability comment really hurt. Guess you'll be wanting to remove my feeding tube now, huh?

Ok, hold on to that belief that John Kerry is secretly working behind the scenes to get to the bottom of this DSM. You know, of course, because you're all highly intellectual, that the DSM is the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for MENTAL DISORDERS. HAHAHA ... how appropriate is THAT?



Comment #78: Voted Many Times said on 6/17/05 @ 12:13am ET...

I did my part.



Comment #79: cfk said on 6/17/05 @ 12:14am ET...

Thank you !! Thank you !! Thank you!!

As others have said, I am so grateful for your hard work!!!



Comment #80: Saddam Hussein said on 6/17/05 @ 12:15am ET...

Thank you sir!

Maybe soon I will be freed. Please keep up you efforts. And please send more little white undies.



Comment #81: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:15am ET...

Comment #74: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 12:11am ET...

THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS SAYING:

"I" am John Conyers!

---------------------------------------------------

And the remaining Americans are saying:

"You are a bunch of lackwits."



Comment #82: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:19am ET...

CLUE FOR THE MOONBATS: E-SIGNATURES ARE >>>WORTHLESS!!!<<<

Multiple fake names posted by a handful of people are meaningless. Names like I. P. Freely and Ima Stud are a joke.

Thanks for giving President Bush more toilet paper, though.



Comment #83: Linda said on 6/17/05 @ 12:19am ET...

Rep. Conyers, you are a National Treasure. Today you made me proud to be an American and a Democrat. Whatever happens, my family and I thank you and wish you success.



Comment #84: Kryten42 said on 6/17/05 @ 12:19am ET...

Well done Rep Conyers, Sir. And to your staff. :)

I hope you have a chance at a good sleep sir, you have earned it. :)

Thank you for everything you do. Your constituents should be so proud!

God bless you. :-)



Comment #85: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 12:20am ET...

Mike Nuts, we DO NOT have time for you to frame the debate....

WE HAVE WORK TO DO! AND YOUR SCARED SHITLESS AT THE THOUGHT HAVING TO SAY TO YOURSELF "I WAS ALL WRONG!"

EVERYONE SAY IT WITH ME NOW - ATTACH THIS TO THE BOTTOM OF EACH POST AND LETS GET THIS GOING! "I" am John Conyers! YEEEHAWW!

"I" am John Conyers!



Comment #86: Rusty said on 6/17/05 @ 12:21am ET...

Tom DeLay's "communications director" quit today. A five-million dollar lawsuit was filed today against a Pennsylvania Republican congressman for beating and choking his mistress. Scott McClellan was actually grilled five times today at the Fuhrer Bunker's daily press briefing about the Iraqi insurgency's alleged "death throes." And John Conyers fired a shot for democracy heard around the world. This was not a good day to be a GOP sewer rat. This is not going to be a good YEAR for being a GOP sewer rat. Thank you, Congressman Conyers, and thank you to everyone who took part in today's events!



Comment #87: STRAYLIGHT said on 6/17/05 @ 12:22am ET...

More ammunition..!

The ‘Downing Street Memo’ is only the latest in a series of cabinet level revelations from the UK that discredited the WMD argument for invading Iraq, and those who first made it. Starting even before the war, there were strenuous ministerial objections, threats to resign, and eventually, actual resignations, all based on growing doubts and in the end, certainty that the WMD case for war was not honestly based in fact. Those involved have been speaking out publicly ever since, although that is rarely acknowledged by our own media. It is only necessary to ‘Google’ either ‘Robin Cook’ or ‘Claire Short’ though, to find a long list of reports in the English press and other references.

I enclose three clear examples from the summer of ‘03. One of them includes relevant disclosures from Cook’s published diary regarding Cabinet meetings, etc., from as far back as the beginning of ’02. In another, Ms Short points out part of the obvious rebuttal based on common sense, and what we actually did know, or could easily have learned for ourselves. Together, they provide further confirmation of the media’s gross negligence in ever accepting this fraud that ‘we all made the same mistake”, or that ‘everyone’ and their intelligence service knew that Saddam, in 2002, possessed sufficient wmd’s to make Iraq an immediate threat to the US…

BLAIR "KNEW IRAQ HAD NO WMD"
By David Cracknell (Times (London),
October 5, 2003

…Tony Blair privately conceded two weeks before the Iraq war that Saddam Hussein did not have any usable weapons of mass destruction, Robin Cook, the former foreign secretary, reveals today. John Scarlett, chairman of the joint intelligence committee (JIC), also "assented" that Saddam had no such weapons, says Cook…
…Cook reveals that on February 20 this year he was given a briefing by Scarlett. "The presentation was impressive in its integrity and shorn of the political slant with which No 10 encumbers any intelligence assessment," Cook writes in his diary. "My conclusion at the end of an hour is that Saddam probably does not have weapons of mass destruction in the sense of weapons that could be used against large-scale civilian targets.”
Two weeks later, on March 5, Cook saw Blair. At the time the government was still trying to get a fresh UN resolution and Cook was still in government as leader of the Commons.



Comment #88: Cook writes: "The most revealing exchange came when we talked about Saddam's arsenal. I told him, 'It's clear from the private briefing I have had that Saddam has no weapons of mass destruction in a sense of weapons that could strike at strategic cities. But he probably does have several thousand battlefield chemical munitions… …The second troubling element to our conversation was that Tony did not try to argue me out of the view that Saddam did not have real weapons of mass destruction that were designed for strategic use against city populations and capable of being delivered with reliability over long distances. I had now expressed that view to both the chairman of the JIC and to the prime minister and both had assented in it. …If the government did come to know that the [United States] State Department did not trust the claims in the September dossier and that some of even their top experts did not believe them, should they not have told parliament before asking the Commons to vote for war on a false prospectus?" SHORT: BLAIR LIED TO CABINET AND MADE SECRET WAR PACT WITH US By Nicholas Watt and Michael White Guardian June 2, 2003 …Clare Short levelled the incendiary allegation at the prime minister that he had lied to the cabinet. As an increasingly exasperated prime minister once again swept aside calls for a public inquiry into the failure to uncover banned Iraqi weapons, the former international development secretary accused Mr Blair of bypassing the cabinet to agree a "secret" pact with George Bush to go to war… BRITAIN MUST NOT BE SUCKERED A SECOND TIME BY THE WHITE HOUSE By Robin Cook Independent May 30, 2003 The British government needs to concede that we went to war for reasons of US foreign policy and Republican Party politics … In the chutzpah stakes Donald Rumsfeld is way off the top of the scale. Before the war he told us that Saddam had "large stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and an active programme to develop nuclear weapons". After the war he explains away the failure to find any of these stockpiles or nuclear installations on the possibility that Saddam's regime "decided they would destroy them prior to a conflict''. You have to admire his effrontery. …We need to rescue the meaning of words from becoming a further casualty of the Iraqi War. A weapon of mass destruction in normal speech is a device capable of being delivered over a long distance and exterminating a strategic target such as a capital city. Saddam had neither a long-range missile system nor a warhead capable of mass destruction. …Laboratory stocks of biological toxins or chemical shells for use on the battlefield do not add up to weapons of mass destruction. But we have not yet found even any of these. When the Cabinet discussed the dossier on Saddam's weapons of mass destruction I argued that I found the document curiously "derivative''. It set out what we knew about Saddam's chemical and biological arsenal at the time of the (previous) Gulf War. It rehearsed our inability to discover what had happened to those weapons. It then leapt to the conclusion that Saddam must still possess all those weapons. There was no hard intelligence of a current weapons programme that would represent a new and compelling threat to our interests. Nor did the dossier at any stage admit the basic scientific fact that biological and chemical agents have a finite shelf life. Odd, since it is a principle understood by every chemist. Go in to your medicine cupboard and check out the existence of an expiry date on nearly everything you possess. Nerve agents of good quality have a shelf life of about five years and anthrax in liquid solution of about three years. Saddam's stocks were not of good quality. The Pentagon itself concluded that Iraqi chemical munitions were of such poor standard that they were produced to a "make-and-use'' regime under which they were usable for only a few weeks. Even if Saddam had destroyed none of his arsenal from 1991 it would long ago have become useless. …It is inconceivable that no one in the Pentagon told Donald Rumsfeld these home truths, or at the very least tried to tell him. So why did he build a case for war on a false claim of Saddam's capability? Enter stage right (far right) his deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, a man of such ferociously reactionary opinion that he has at least the advantage to his department of making Rumsfeld appear reasonable. He has now disclosed: "For bureaucratic reasons we settled on weapons of mass destruction because it was the one issue everyone could agree on.'' …The time has come when the British government needs to concede that we did not go to war because Saddam was a threat to our national interests. We went to war for reasons of US foreign policy and Republican domestic politics. said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #89: Mike Hunt said on 6/17/05 @ 12:23am ET...

Hey, CJ, being an intellectual liberal and all, shouldn't it be YOU'RE rather then YOUR?

But remember, the Republicans are the majority party now and WE do get to frame the debate.



Comment #90: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:24am ET...

"I" am CJ!



Comment #91: CSPAN News Editor Guy said on 6/17/05 @ 12:24am ET...

Boy, are you guys lucky the guy that was going to present a book report on CSPAN-3 was ill this morning. You made the big time, baby. CSPAN-3.



Comment #92: RobK said on 6/17/05 @ 12:24am ET...

John Conyers, sir! You are a great American..

you stood proud and tall today as the Republicans displayed their sniveling, mean spirited and un-American little minds.

I hope they are all run out of town in the next election.

Take care of yourself, get rest and God bless!



Comment #93: America said on 6/17/05 @ 12:25am ET...

Thank you Sir for all that your doing! You are a true American Patriot!

"I" AM JOHN CONYERS!



Comment #94: RobK said on 6/17/05 @ 12:25am ET...

John Conyers, sir! You are a great American..

you stood proud and tall today as the Republicans displayed their sniveling, mean spirited and un-American little minds.

I hope they are all run out of town in the next election.

Take care of yourself, get rest and God bless!



Comment #95: "I" am John Conyers said on 6/17/05 @ 12:25am ET...

And I account for all of the fake signatures.



Comment #96: RobK said on 6/17/05 @ 12:26am ET...

John Conyers, sir! You are a great American..

you stood proud and tall today as the Republicans displayed their sniveling, mean spirited and un-American little minds.

I hope they are all run out of town in the next election.

Take care of yourself, get rest and God bless!



Comment #97: RobK said on 6/17/05 @ 12:26am ET...

John Conyers, sir! You are a great American..

you stood proud and tall today as the Republicans displayed their sniveling, mean spirited and un-American little minds.

I hope they are all run out of town in the next election.

Take care of yourself, get rest and God bless!



Comment #98: RobK said on 6/17/05 @ 12:26am ET...

John Conyers, sir! You are a great American..

you stood proud and tall today as the Republicans displayed their sniveling, mean spirited and un-American little minds.

I hope they are all run out of town in the next election.

Take care of yourself, get rest and God bless!



Comment #99: RobK said on 6/17/05 @ 12:26am ET...

John Conyers, sir! You are a great American..

you stood proud and tall today as the Republicans displayed their sniveling, mean spirited and un-American little minds.

I hope they are all run out of town in the next election.

Take care of yourself, get rest and God bless!



Comment #100: RobK said on 6/17/05 @ 12:26am ET...

John Conyers, sir! You are a great American..

you stood proud and tall today as the Republicans displayed their sniveling, mean spirited and un-American litt



Comment #101: le minds. I hope they are all run out of town in the next election. Take care of yourself, get rest and God bless! said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #102: RobK said on 6/17/05 @ 12:26am ET...

John Conyers, sir! You are a great American..

you stood proud and tall today as the Republicans displayed their sniveling, mean spirited and un-American little minds.

I hope they are all run out of town in the next election.

Take care of yourself, get rest and God bless!



Comment #103: RobK said on 6/17/05 @ 12:26am ET...

John Conyers, sir! You are a great American..

you stood proud and tall today as the Republicans displayed their sniveling, mean spirited and un-American little minds.

I hope they are all run out of town in the next election.

Take care of yourself, get rest and God bless!



Comment #104: RobK said on 6/17/05 @ 12:26am ET...

John Conyers, sir! You are a great American..

you stood proud and tall today as the Republicans displayed their sniveling, mean spirited and un-American little minds.

I hope they are all run out of town in the next election.

Take care of yourself, get rest and God bless!



Comment #105: Joe said on 6/17/05 @ 12:26am ET...

To all the wackos talkings about fake signatures - what do you have to say about all of the fake votes that Bush got last November?



Comment #106: Mike Hunt said on 6/17/05 @ 12:27am ET...

Ok ok ok, we'll let you people continue to delude yourselves.

Interestly enough, when this DSM nonsense blows over, you'll actually need the REAL DSM. Oddly ironic, huh?

Good night and sweet dreams children.



Comment #107: RobK said on 6/17/05 @ 12:27am ET...

John Conyers, sir! You are a great American..

you stood proud and tall today as the Republicans displayed their sniveling, mean spirited and un-American little minds.

I hope they are all run out of town in the next election.

Take care of yourself, get rest and God bless!



Comment #108: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:27am ET...

Hmm...

John Conyers... JC... Jesus Christ...

Makes sense since he's your lord and savior of the moment (since Howie "Screaming Weenie" Dean didn't pan out).



Comment #109: Ohiodem1 said on 6/17/05 @ 12:28am ET...

Checked out BradBlog per link above. Good to be able to see it all in print, as many folks have dialup or generally slow links and no access to CSPAN-3.

Another blog that deserves some trafic is http://www.dailysandwich.blogspot.com/

Matt Sandwich highlights corruption and hypocrisy of the Radican Republican Right. He only gets about 20 hits a day and deserves more traffic.

If this seems off-topic, we need all the help we can get. It is about to get REALLY nasty. We need to be tough enough to take it.

Finally, we need to keep the Bush administration playing defense, they are not very good at it, and their defensive mode is to attack, divert, obsfuscate and attack some more.



Comment #110: "I" am John Conyers said on 6/17/05 @ 12:29am ET...

/\

Yeah, that's pretty much how the petition worked, too.



Comment #111: jibberjabber said on 6/17/05 @ 12:29am ET...

Have you people even read the Cabinet Paper that the Times Online published a few days ago?

Oops!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-524-1648758-524,00.html



Comment #112: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 12:29am ET...

As that old Nazi Barbara Bush put it...

"Why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how
many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what
do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So, why should
I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"



Comment #113: Yet another Mike said on 6/17/05 @ 12:29am ET...

Rep. Conyers you are truly heroic.

A great day in history. I am proud to have been a part of this.

Your DemParty compatriots did a great job supporting you during the Repug games, and the panel was articulate & concise.

You have my firm promise of continued support. A resolution of inquiry is very much warranted and should proceed ASAP.

Let the record show that the Republicans and their trolls don't want to know, don't care.



Comment #114: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:29am ET...

Hmm...

John Conyers... JC... Jesus Christ...

Makes sense since he's your lord and savior of the moment (since Howie "Screaming Weenie" Dean didn't pan out).



Comment #115: Dr. Eldritch said on 6/17/05 @ 12:30am ET...

JMcH...

You say you were a 'die hard liberal'. Strictly out of curiousity, What liberal precepts did you adhere to prior to your abandonment?



Comment #116: Horkus said on 6/17/05 @ 12:30am ET...

Why do the freepers of the world come here to post negative remarks while claiming that our attempts are futile?

Here'e the reason.



Comment #117: Trolls Make Me Want To Donate Lots Of Money To Democrats said on 6/17/05 @ 12:30am ET...

Trolls Make Me Want To Donate Lots Of Money To Democrats, to DFA, DNC, Conyers, and others.



Comment #118: BushAgnew2005 said on 6/17/05 @ 12:31am ET...

Thank you Mr. Conyers! Amazing how upset the get with us just for asking a few questions, eh.

"If You Aren't Extremely Appalled You Obviously Haven't Been Paying Attention!"



Comment #119: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 12:32am ET...

As that old Nazi Barbara Bush put it...

"Why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how
many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what
do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So, why should
I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"



Comment #120: Yet another Mike said on 6/17/05 @ 12:32am ET...

Rep. Conyers you are truly heroic.

A great day in history. I am proud to have been a part of this.

Your DemParty compatriots did a great job supporting you during the Repug games, and the panel was articulate & concise.

You have my firm promise of continued support. A resolution of inquiry is very much warranted and should proceed ASAP.

Let the record show that the Republicans and their trolls don't want to know, don't care.



Comment #121: GWH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:34am ET...

Obviously the conservatives here feel the need to try and ruin this blog much as they have tried to ruin America and Iraq. It is all they seem capable of doing.
THANKS to all who attended today's hearing. And thanks especially to Rep. Conyers. Great job!



Comment #122: Adrienne said on 6/17/05 @ 12:34am ET...

Mr. Conyers,

You will go down in history as one of our greatest patriots.

God bless you!!

adrienne



Comment #123: Sue B. said on 6/17/05 @ 12:34am ET...

You are a great American.



Comment #124: john said on 6/17/05 @ 12:34am ET...

thank you, sir.



Comment #125: Sue B. said on 6/17/05 @ 12:35am ET...

You are a great American.



Comment #126: Sue B. said on 6/17/05 @ 12:35am ET...

You are a great American.



Comment #127: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 12:35am ET...

THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS ARE SAYING:

"I" am John Conyers!



Comment #128: PW said on 6/17/05 @ 12:35am ET...

Thank-you sir. Thank-you. You are a true patriot unlike so many others that claim to be.



Comment #129: Sinatra said on 6/17/05 @ 12:36am ET...

The Freeper Refrain

"I'VE GOT YOUUUUUU UNDER MY SKIINNNN"

Great work Mr. Conyers! You've got the neo-con theofascists worried.



Comment #130: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:36am ET...

Comment #113: Dr. Eldritch said on 6/17/05 @ 12:30am ET...

JMcH...

You say you were a 'die hard liberal'. Strictly out of curiousity, What liberal precepts did you adhere to prior to your abandonment?

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Support of gay marriage, support of abortion, support of Clinton, hatred of Republicans and conservative Christians, etc. Pretty much everything you'd find on the Democratic Underground forum



Comment #131: s now. said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #132: understandinglife said on 6/17/05 @ 12:36am ET...

Thank you, once again, Congressman Conyers for your leadership and for all you are doing to save America from the lying Bush and the imperialistic neoconsters.

Peace,
UL

http://www.missionnotaccomplished.us - Impeachment of Bush and Cheney; indictment and prosecution of all members of the Bush regime who participated in the deception, should be campaign promises of any candidate worthy of our vote in the 2006 Congressional elections.



Comment #133: Mike said on 6/17/05 @ 12:37am ET...

They're so worried !

Why are they so frenetic ?

What could be causing their distress ?



Comment #134: mmie said on 6/17/05 @ 12:38am ET...

Thank you , Congressman Conyers. You stood tall today ---don't let the losers get you down.



Comment #135: Paula K said on 6/17/05 @ 12:38am ET...

Rep. Conyers, you sir, are a true Patriot. Today was truly historic. I am so proud to have been a small part in this.

Good work today. I too stand ready to take your back. SALUTE!



Comment #136: Conyers supporter said on 6/17/05 @ 12:38am ET...

Thank you, Mr Conyers, yet again. You are the shining light on the Hill (even when they hide you away in the basement because they think no one will hear you from down there). Everyone is waking and listening. Thank you.



Comment #137: Ohidem1 said on 6/17/05 @ 12:38am ET...

The link to The Daily Sandwich posted in #107 above did not show up correctly. I will try again.

The Daily Sandwich

Also missing from the Bush administration defensive tactics was minimization of bad news or factual information that tells the truth about their policies, followed by denial or the "that's old news" dodge. This is their response to DSMinutes. Attack mode is next.



Comment #138: matt said on 6/17/05 @ 12:38am ET...

Well, looks like the DU flood machine has done its work. Have fun, liberals and conservatives of the "I want to have a rational debate" mentality!



Comment #139: Jake said on 6/17/05 @ 12:39am ET...

Thank you Mr. Conyers for standing up for Democracy and the Truth today, despite the Republicans trying to silence your dissent with their petty quazi-fascist tactics.



Comment #140: Mike said on 6/17/05 @ 12:39am ET...

What could be troubling them so ?



Comment #141: Trajan said on 6/17/05 @ 12:40am ET...

Dear Rep. Conyers,

I want to thank you, deeply and sincerely, for representing my community's goal of seeking truth, honor and justice in this great nation. The foolish one's who pester us here, in this forum, are scared little children that obviously lack a decent respect for common civility. You would be wise to expunge such indelicate profanities from your wonderful blog.

Again: WE thank you from the bottom of our hearts.

WE are with you ! ...



Comment #142: Bob Dobbs said on 6/17/05 @ 12:40am ET...

Thank you for your courage and integrity. Only leadership from men of your stature can lead us out of this horrific and shameful quagmire .



Comment #143: Linda said on 6/17/05 @ 12:40am ET...

Mr. Conyers, thank you so much for attempting to shine light on the lies and deceptions of this administration. You are truly a great American. Don't give up.



Comment #144: Linda said on 6/17/05 @ 12:40am ET...

Mr. Conyers, thank you so much for attempting to shine light on the lies and deceptions of this administration. You are truly a great American. Don't give up.



Comment #145: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:40am ET...

Comment #103: Joe said on 6/17/05 @ 12:26am ET...

To all the wackos talkings about fake signatures - what do you have to say about all of the fake votes that Bush got last November?

-----------------------------------------------

"Bush stole the election!!!!" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Hey, provide your proof that Bush got "fake" votes and we'll talk. And before you try, exit polls are not proof.



Comment #146: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 12:41am ET...

"I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was hell." ... Harry S Truman

"I" am John Conyers!



Comment #147: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 12:42am ET...

As that old Nazi Barbara Bush put it...

"Why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how
many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what
do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So, why should
I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"

She couldn't be bothered to think about American dead much
less the innocents Iraqi and Afghani children her son's
slaughtered by the tens of thousands as it might upset her
beautiful mind.

"I" am John Conyers!



Comment #148: tobes said on 6/17/05 @ 12:43am ET...

no JMcH, wrong wrong wrong. no wonder you left the liberals--you didnt even understand progressivism.

first and foremost, progressives tend to be against fascism.

which would mean: against fake elections ('00 and '04).

against fake news: http://foi.missouri.edu/newsmgmtabroad/underbush.html

and against the neo-con regime whose figurehead is bush.

dont fall for the lies and cover-ups just because it doesnt go by the name "Nazi" and they dont wear swastika patches on their jacket sleeves.



Comment #149: tobeme said on 6/17/05 @ 12:44am ET...

Thank You Congressman Conyers! You all displayed what democracy used to look like...a sight for sore eyes, and while the truth has been available to read, it was really nice to hear it for once. I wish I could read the comments, but if I did that I'd probably be apoplectic by now! Peace.



Comment #150: matt said on 6/17/05 @ 12:44am ET...

Comment #139: Bob Dobbs

The church of the sub-genius rises again!



Comment #151: Dr. Eldritch said on 6/17/05 @ 12:44am ET...

In response to my question about what his original 'Liberal" precepts were, JMcH said; "Support of gay marriage, support of abortion, support of Clinton, hatred of Republicans and conservative Christians, etc. Pretty much everything you'd find on the Democratic Underground forums now."

And I am a bear because I like pic-i-nic baskets and have a friend named Yogi.

Sir, I am a Republican, yet even I have taken time to understand what 'Liberals' are about.

Very amusing, thank you.



Comment #152: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 12:44am ET...

IF YOU DON'T die "in country" then your death isn't counted in the 1700. The total is nearly 7000 American dead.

I'm going to repeat that again for those of you on drugs...

7000 Dead

"I" am John Conyers



Comment #153: Joe said on 6/17/05 @ 12:44am ET...

You want proof of fake votes? Mr. Conyers has a report out on that. Read up on Diebold and their voting machine "malfunctions".



Comment #154: Karen said on 6/17/05 @ 12:44am ET...

Representative Conyers,
Thank you for all your efforts to restore truth and justice in our country. I saw you on C-SPAN this morning dicsussing the Patriot Act and the DSM Hearing. I listened to the hearing and have followed reports of your attempt to deliver signatures to the White House. If other members of Congress worked half as hard as you do I can only imagine the progress we would make. Keep up the good work!



Comment #155: Kermit said on 6/17/05 @ 12:44am ET...

"I am John Conyers"

I love the Spartacus reference. It is so apt. Spartacus brought notoriety to the problems of Rome by leading a revolt. After twice defeating Roman armies, he continued to move north to freedom. It was a win/win. But what did he do when steps away from Rome’s northern border and freedom? He turned back on Rome with the intention of raping, plundering, and pillaging. He himself only wanted escape but his blood thirsty army wanted more. With this, the popular opinion turned from Spartacus, a larger army was sent to meat him, and he was soundly defeated. He and his army were crucified along miles of Roman roads.

You are Spartacus / Conyers. Be carefu



Comment #156: l what you wish for. said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #157: TimeChaser said on 6/17/05 @ 12:45am ET...

Thank you, Mr. Conyers, for taking a stand against those who would use war for their own gain.



Comment #158: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:45am ET...

CJ,

As that tolerant and caring liberal Markos Moulitsas of DailyKos put it when Americans were killed, mutilated, burned and hung from a bridge in Iraq...

"Screw 'em."



Comment #159: Mike said on 6/17/05 @ 12:46am ET...

What are they worried about ?

Recent polling ?
Intractable War on false pretenses ?
Mounting evidence of corruption ?
No ideas ?
Body count going higher and higher ?
DOA 2nd term initiatives ?
The incredible disappearing "mandate" ?
The return of journalism ?



Comment #160: To JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:47am ET...

JMcH:

read this about the STOLEN ELECTIONS then keep laughing as you become an accessory to murder:

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

(read the links under NUMBER 14)



Comment #161: patrick said on 6/17/05 @ 12:47am ET...

WHERE'S HANK. C'MON HANKIE WANKIE.
DON'T POUT. GET IT OUT.



Comment #162: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 12:47am ET...

In fact, Mr. Conyers has proven that Iraqi children have no reason to live anymore because they are liberated!

"I" am John Conyers



Comment #163: Tigress DEM said on 6/17/05 @ 12:48am ET...

Thank you for speaking Truth to Power. Again.

Freepers. Bite me.



Comment #164: Justin said on 6/17/05 @ 12:48am ET...

Thank you very much Mr. Conyers for trying to bring some sanity and accountability to our government. You are a true patriot.



Comment #165: Cassie said on 6/17/05 @ 12:49am ET...

Thank you Mr. Conyers!!!!!!!!!!



Comment #166: AP said on 6/17/05 @ 12:49am ET...

THANK YOU and please keep this going. We need to really start fighting. We will back you up.



Comment #167: Wayne said on 6/17/05 @ 12:49am ET...

Mr. Conyers thank you sir!
and thank you to all the members of congress who participated.



Comment #168: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 12:50am ET...

#158

That was not me folks! Now do you realize who we are dealing with here.



Comment #169: NVMOJO said on 6/17/05 @ 12:50am ET...

YOU ARE MY HERO!!!!

Thanks you!!!



Comment #170: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:51am ET...

Comment #145: tobes said on 6/17/05 @ 12:43am ET...

no JMcH, wrong wrong wrong. no wonder you left the liberals--you didnt even understand progressivism.

first and foremost, progressives tend to be against fascism.

which would mean: against fake elections ('00 and '04).

against fake news: http://foi.missouri.edu/newsmgmtabroad/underbush.html

and against the neo-con regime whose figurehead is bush.

dont fall for the lies and cover-ups just because it doesnt go by the name "Nazi" and they dont wear swastika patches on their jacket sleeves.

====================================

Considering that liberals define "facism," "neocon" and "Nazi" as "anything Republican..."

"Fake elections." ROFL!!! Try "fake, evidenceless charges of fake elections by liberal sheep."



Comment #171: Sheryl said on 6/17/05 @ 12:51am ET...

I can't think of a time during my 51 years when I have been more impressed by the leadership of a national politician. You are leading us out of our national nightmare and we have your back. Please stay the course.



Comment #172: Linda said on 6/17/05 @ 12:51am ET...

Thank you Rep. Conyers for your hearing today. I salute a great patriot!!!!



Comment #173: GG said on 6/17/05 @ 12:51am ET...

What a great day! Conyers for President 08!!!



Comment #174: Land of the FREE said on 6/17/05 @ 12:52am ET...

Home Of The Brave!

THANK YOU SIR!

"I" AM JOHN CONYERS!



Comment #175: Red Haggis said on 6/17/05 @ 12:52am ET...

This crap is coming down the pipes now. Who gives a flop which "side" anyone is on as long as the truth is told!! Punch your ego in the face JMcH, and stop drawing lines in the sand over here. WE are trying to save you from yourselves, and escort some humanity into our world in the process. Is dividing always going to be on your agenda, is that what this all means to you? Or can you eventually respect what's going on here, and maybe learn something? Ass.



Comment #176: AP said on 6/17/05 @ 12:52am ET...

Those bastard troops need to stop spreading American imperialism. Hussein should be restored to power!

"I" am John Conyers



Comment #177: Lisa said on 6/17/05 @ 12:53am ET...

Thank you Mr. Conyers. That was a class act. You are a hero and a gentleman.



Comment #178: Mike said on 6/17/05 @ 12:53am ET...

What is it that rankles them so ?

Thanks to a dedicated group, who certainly wouldn't have come this far if they were concerned about some right-wing nutcase hate speech,

... we're going to find out !

Ahh, the Genie. She's left the bottle, boys. Oh, isn't it going to be deliciously fun trying to watch you guys try to stuff her back in - as your Repug ex-loyalists jump ship in advance of the midterms next year.

And Kenny-boy's trial starts in January. Bonus !

It's going to be good old fashioned fun.



Comment #179: Matt said on 6/17/05 @ 12:53am ET...

Dear Rep. Conyers,

THANK YOU for all you are doing. I don't feel so lost anymore.



Comment #180: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 12:54am ET...

Do you believe President Bush misled the nation in order to go to war with Iraq?

Yes
93%

No
7%



Comment #181: Kathy said on 6/17/05 @ 12:54am ET...

Representative Conyers --

Thank you for another great demonstration of true leadership and statesmanship.

We made tremendous progress today despite the incredibly juvenile yet ineffective attempts of the Republican House "leaders" to sidetrack our march toward the truth. They will never stop us because we have truth and passion on our side.

Bush and the other corporate tools will never rest peacefully because they are so afraid of losing their power -- but you can rest well and wake up optimistic about the future.

Bless you.



Comment #182: Arne said on 6/17/05 @ 12:54am ET...

Rep Conyers,

I was born and lived in Detroit for 35 years. You make me proud that I am a Detroiter. The steps you have taken will be long remembered as that of a true patriot. It may not know it, but your country owes you its eternal gratitude.

Sincerely,
Arne
Ontario, CA



Comment #183: BushAgnew2005 said on 6/17/05 @ 12:54am ET...

To Matt & JMcH

So, you are here posting negative comments because you don't have anything positive to post about on your nasty reich-wing blogs? That's pretty much indicative of something, eh?

P.S. 41-52 Have Fun!



Comment #184: Militarybrat said on 6/17/05 @ 12:54am ET...

John,

Today must have been a long day, it was exhausting just trying to stay up with all the news coverage of your hearings!

Thank God for your patriotism, and commitment to democracy. I hope you are correct and that the truth will all come out eventually. (And I pray it's sooner than later.)

Thank you for your leadership.



Comment #185: Retired Army said on 6/17/05 @ 12:54am ET...

Thanks so much, Congressman Conyers. You are a patriotic hero, sir.



Comment #186: Retired Army said on 6/17/05 @ 12:55am ET...

Thanks so much, Congressman Conyers. You are a patriotic hero, sir.



Comment #187: tobes said on 6/17/05 @ 12:55am ET...

the lines between the GOP on the one hand and fascism on the other are self-destructing, my friend.

of course they are not synonymous terms (yet). nice try, though! wanna try again?

read the link at #156 then get back to me about Fake Elections (and about the remarkable likeness between the Bush Administration and fascism) once you've been Educated!



Comment #188: Retired Army said on 6/17/05 @ 12:55am ET...

Thanks so much, Congressman Conyers. You are a patriotic hero, sir.



Comment #189: Retired Army said on 6/17/05 @ 12:55am ET...

Thanks s



Comment #190: o much, Congressman Conyers. You are a patriotic hero, sir. said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #191: Red Haggis said on 6/17/05 @ 12:56am ET...

Those piece of shit troops need to shoot their officers. That is the only way they can get away from the influence of that chimp, Bush.

I hate the troops and all they stand for!



Comment #192: Amy said on 6/17/05 @ 12:57am ET...

Thank you...VERY much for doing this Conyers.



Comment #193: tobes said on 6/17/05 @ 12:57am ET...

the lines between the GOP on the one hand and fascism on the other are self-destructing, my friend.

of course they are not synonymous terms (yet). nice try, though! wanna try again?

read the link at #156 then get back to me about Fake Elections (and about the remarkable likeness between the Bush Administration and fascism) once you've been Educated!



Comment #194: Dave Counts said on 6/17/05 @ 12:58am ET...

Thank you Mr. Conyers.



Comment #195: Prior Service: Army 31U said on 6/17/05 @ 12:58am ET...

Thanks you sir, you give us hope!

IMPEACH BUSH!

"I" am John Conyers!



Comment #196: SteveB said on 6/17/05 @ 12:58am ET...

Mr. Conyers, thank you for helping all of us take a stand against the abuse of power.



Comment #197: doug c said on 6/17/05 @ 12:58am ET...

God Bless you Mr. Conyers--you are truly, truly a great American.

Just a reminder for all of our friends about how important it is to keep up the pressure on the media.

Here are some great websites to help:

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/takeaction.html#awaken

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org



Comment #198: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:59am ET...

Comment #156: To JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 12:47am ET...

JMcH:

read this about the STOLEN ELECTIONS then keep laughing as you become an accessory to murder:

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

(read the links under NUMBER 14)

---------------------------------------------

ROFLMAO!!!! Oh, thank you for that link! I do so enjoy going to bed with a smile on my face. Tell me, why is it that none of you can make any of that stick? Is it because President Bush controls so much? But you guys believe he is a drooling idiot. How can a drooling idiot control so much so expertly?



Comment #199: doug c said on 6/17/05 @ 12:59am ET...

God Bless you Mr. Conyers--you are truly, truly a great American.

Just a reminder for all of our friends about how important it is to keep up the pressure on the media.

Here are some great websites to help:

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/takeaction.html#awaken

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org



Comment #200: Red Haggis said on 6/17/05 @ 12:59am ET...

Those piece of shit troops need to shoot their officers. That is the only way they can get away from the influence of that chimp, Bush.

I hate the troops and all they stand for!



Comment #201: Prior Service: Army 31U said on 6/17/05 @ 1:00am ET...

Thanks you sir, you give us hope!

IMPEACH BUSH!

"I" am John Conyers!



Comment #202: Richard and Sandi Schmidt said on 6/17/05 @ 1:00am ET...

Thank you for speaking for us, Mr. Conyers. Your hearing today brings us HOPE!

Impeach Bush!



Comment #203: Red Haggis said on 6/17/05 @ 1:01am ET...

Those piece of shit troops need to shoot their officers. That is the only way they can get away from the influence of that chimp, Bush.

I hate the troops and all they stand for!



Comment #204: doug c said on 6/17/05 @ 1:01am ET...

God Bless you Mr. Conyers--you are truly, truly a great American.

Just a reminder for all of our friends about how important it is to keep up the pressure on the media.

Here are some great websites to help:

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/takeaction.html#awaken

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org



Comment #205: Red Haggis said on 6/17/05 @ 1:01am ET...

Those piece of shit troops need to shoot their officers. That is the only way they can get away from the influence of that chimp, Bush.

I hate the troops and all they stand for!



Comment #206: doug c said on 6/17/05 @ 1:02am ET...

God Bless you Mr. Conyers--you are truly, truly a great American.

Just a reminder for all of our friends about how important it is to keep up the pressure on the media.

Here are some great websites to help:

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/takeaction.html#awaken

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org



Comment #207: doug c said on 6/17/05 @ 1:02am ET...

God Bless you Mr. Conyers--you are truly, truly a great American.

Just a reminder for all of our friends about how important it is to keep up the pressure on the media.

Here are some great websites to help:

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/takeaction.html#awaken

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org



Comment #208: Red Haggis said on 6/17/05 @ 1:03am ET...

Those piece of shit troops need to shoot their officers. That is the only way they can get away from the influence of that chimp, Bush.

I hate the troops and all they stand for!



Comment #209: doug c said on 6/17/05 @ 1:03am ET...

God Bless you Mr. Conyers--you are truly, truly a great American.

Just a reminder for all of our friends about how important it is to keep up the pressure on the media.

Here are some great websites to help:

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/takeaction.html#awaken

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org



Comment #210: doug c said on 6/17/05 @ 1:03am ET...

God Bless you Mr. Conyers--you are truly, truly a great American.

Just a reminder for all of our friends about how important it is to keep up the pressure on the media.

Here are some great websites to help:

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/takeaction.html#awaken

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org



Comment #211: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 1:04am ET...

"I" AM A DROOLING IDIOT.



Comment #212: Clarity said on 6/17/05 @ 1:04am ET...

Congressman Conyers,

I am 2 years new to politics so I'm still in the learning process, but I must say that these past 2 years, it's become abundantly clear that you are on my side. You are on the side of America, decency, honor, truth and justice. I would walk through fire for you. Thank you for all you are doing for us - your bravery, eloquence, and determination cannot be quantified. I thank you for all you're doing. I'm proud to have signed your letter to Mr. Bush about the Downing Street Minutes. I hope you decide to run for President.



Comment #213: doug c said on 6/17/05 @ 1:05am ET...

God Bless you Mr. Conyers--you are truly, truly a great American.

Just a reminder for all of our friends about how important it is to keep up the pressure on the media.

Here are some great websites to help:

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/takeaction.html#awaken

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org



Comment #214: Red Haggis said on 6/17/05 @ 1:06am ET...

"Those piece of shit troops need to shoot their officers. That is the only way they can get away from the influence of that chimp, Bush.

I hate the troops and all they stand for!"

-------------------------------------

The above was not posted by RH. See my other posts above and decide for yourself. And to the im-poster posing as RH, your are full of carp! Fish breath bottom feeder.

I will say it....I AM RED HAGGIS!!!

Honor the warrior not the war.



Comment #215: Mary said on 6/17/05 @ 1:06am ET...

Thank you Congressman Conyers and all that have worked hard to get the documented evidence discussed. I am hearten by the determination expressed at the hearing. This issue won't go away, we can't let it.



Comment #216: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 1:07am ET...

Mike cHunts/JmChip works for the White House?



Comment #217: Berni said on 6/17/05 @ 1:07am ET...

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
PLEASE READ
Dear Congressman Conyers,
It has just broken in U.K. News Media that the U.S. used NAPALM in Iraq. Napalm h



Comment #218: as long been outlawed as an illegla Weapon of Mass Destruction. Please Read: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=647397 This ALONE is reason to IMPEACH. I hope you read this message. Thank you again for your dilligent patriotism. said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #219: Berni said on 6/17/05 @ 1:07am ET...

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
PLEASE READ
Dear Congressman Conyers,
It has just broken in U.K. News Media that the U.S. used NAPALM in Iraq. Napalm has long been outlawed as an illegla Weapon of Mass Destruction. Please Read:
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=647397
This ALONE is reason to IMPEACH. I hope you read this message.

Thank you again for your dilligent patriotism.



Comment #220: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 1:09am ET...

"I" AM A MOONBAT



Comment #221: Right wing nut said on 6/17/05 @ 1:11am ET...

Hi everyone. I apologize for using other people's names and posing as a liberal making insane comments. It's just that John Conyers is making a real impact and it scares me. I didn't know what else to do. After all, my party is represented by nearly insane people like Limbaugh and O'Reilly. It's just the way we do things on the right. Just ask David Brock over at Media Matters. Again I apologize for my insanity.



Comment #222: Right Wing Nut said on 6/17/05 @ 1:12am ET...

Hi everyone. I apologize for using other people's names and posing as a liberal making insane comments. It's just that John Conyers is making a real impact and it scares me. I didn't know what else to do. After all, my party is represented by nearly insane people like Limbaugh and O'Reilly. It's just the way we do things on the right. Just ask David Brock over at Media Matters. Again I apologize for my insanity.



Comment #223: matt said on 6/17/05 @ 1:12am ET...

BushAgnew

I only post because I still believe there is hope for you.

I watched 9/11 happen on a train in another country halfway across the world. And now Iraq and Afghanistan are free of oppression! If Clinton could moralize with cluster bombs, why do you have problems with Bush doing the same, and Bush actually helping REBUILD the countries political and physical structure? And now the "Arab Spring" is in bloom, and liberals everywhere are on the side of the terrorists because:
1. Bush carried out Clinton's invasion plan.
2. Bush cleaned up terrorism.
3. Bush spread democracy.

What are you fighting against?



Comment #224: sos said on 6/17/05 @ 1:13am ET...

Comment # 29 "There are several quotes from US and British intelligence and ministers, that express their concern about Saddam using WMDs on the troops and Israel.

Now, why would they be worried about non-existent WMDs?" The obvious answer is that we had "evidence" and knew exactly where the "non-existent WMDs". were. Remember, the WMDs were to the "north, west, east,etc.". The question is, why were the troops sent in against possible WMDs? The evidence was not credible proof of anything, except that the U.S. had sold the WMDs to Saddam and that he had dispensed of them in one way or another. In fact , there wasn't any evidence that he possessed WMDs. Some went to war based upon "beliefs" based upon false "evidence". Some went to war based upon "evidence" based upon lies. Keep LYFAO.



Comment #225: Right Wing Wacko said on 6/17/05 @ 1:13am ET...

Hi everyone. I apologize for using other people's names and posing as a liberal making insane comments. It's just that John Conyers is making a real impact and it scares me. I didn't know what else to do. After all, my party is represented by nearly insane people like Limbaugh and O'Reilly. It's just the way we do things on the right. Just ask David Brock over at Media Matters. Again I apologize for my insanity.



Comment #226: Scared Right Winger said on 6/17/05 @ 1:14am ET...

Hi everyone. I apologize for using other people's names and posing as a liberal making insane comments. It's just that John Conyers is making a real impact and it scares me. I didn't know what else to do. After all, my party is represented by nearly insane people like Limbaugh and O'Reilly. It's just the way we do things on the right. Just ask David Brock over at Media Matters. Again I apologize for my insanity.



Comment #227: Kira said on 6/17/05 @ 1:15am ET...

Hey Red Haggis - it's obvious you're a victim of identity theft.

The bottom-feeding freepers crawled out of their slimey, darkened corners. They are they mouthpieces of Hannity Insanity and Rump Limpballs - so what can we expect?

So funny -- there were ONLY SIX of them in their weak weenie support of their president!!! ONLY SIX!! Hahah!



Comment #228: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 1:15am ET...

193 JMcH:

poor poor JMcH, still believing the Meritocracy Myth of America, lock, stock, and barrel.

you must not be very smart. or you need to read a basic sociology book or two. try starting with Aint No Makin It, by Jay McLeod.

and please wisen up. a true democracy cannot survive w/o an enlightened electorate.



Comment #229: David said on 6/17/05 @ 1:15am ET...

It sickens me to think that we have a President who justified a war based on a LIE. Bush needs to be impeached and then tried for Crimes Against Humanity.

Rep. Conyers and the others made me proud today. You do your consituents proud.



Comment #230: Tobes said on 6/17/05 @ 1:15am ET...

193 JMcH:

poor poor JMcH, still believing the Meritocracy Myth of America, lock, stock, and barrel.

you must not be very smart. or you need to read a basic sociology book or two. try starting with Aint No Makin It, by Jay McLeod.

and please wisen up. a true democracy cannot survive w/o an enlightened electorate.



Comment #231: Following Bush over the cliff said on 6/17/05 @ 1:16am ET...

Hi everyone. I apologize for using other people's names and posing as a liberal making insane comments. It's just that John Conyers is making a real impact and it scares me. I didn't know what else to do. After all, my party is represented by nearly insane people like Limbaugh and O'Reilly. It's just the way we do things on the right. Just ask David Brock over at Media Matters. Again I apologize for my insanity.



Comment #232: Kira said on 6/17/05 @ 1:17am ET...

#217 said: "And now Iraq and Afghanistan are free of oppression!"

Ohhh yeah! Right!

What a dimwit!



Comment #233: Orleans said on 6/17/05 @ 1:17am ET...

Thank you so much Congressman Conyers--for all that you do.

I was watching Nadler get "tabled" tonight over Sensenbrenner and am coming to realize that it is perfectly okay to break the rules (and the law) as long as you're a republican. They should be so ashamed of themselves. And the republicans should be so ashamed of their representitives.

We, on the other hand, are so proud of you and everyone who stood with you today and continues to stand with you.



Comment #234: Red Haggis said on 6/17/05 @ 1:18am ET...

Thx for the link to the napalm story Berni. What next? Can't wait to see how Bush and kin try to wiggle out of this one. Wasn't napalm, just a little jelly we were fixin' for lunch on our PBJ's while looking for WMD's.

On a sportier side, JC might be happy to wake up to this new tomorrow....

The Beatdown Goes On--
Home is where the heart hardens. For the second game in a row, the Pistons have bullied the Spurs, this time a 102-71 in Game 4. Is another Palace rout in store Sunday on ABC?



Comment #235: Big Dawg said on 6/17/05 @ 1:19am ET...

Bill Clinton was on Letterman tonight, and when asked by Dave about the DSM, he replied "What's that?"

Now THAT'S gonna sting in the morning!

WOOF!



Comment #236: Not happy if everyone else is said on 6/17/05 @ 1:19am ET...

Hi everyone. I apologize for using other people's names and posing as a liberal making insane comments. It's just that John Conyers is making a real impact and it scares me. I didn't know what else to do. After all, my party is represented by nearly insane people like Limbaugh and O'Reilly. It's just the way we do things on the right. Jus



Comment #237: t ask David Brock over at Media Matters. Again I apologize for my insanity. said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #238: matt said on 6/17/05 @ 1:19am ET...

It is amazing to me that a poster would claim:

"a true democracy cannot survive w/o an enlightened electorate."

and then recommend:

"Ain't No Makin' It: Aspirations and Attainment in a Low-Income Neighborhood"

Are you deliberately trying to sabotage your own message?



Comment #239: Joe said on 6/17/05 @ 1:20am ET...

#217

A quote from the wise Dr. King:

"Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed."



Comment #240: Red Haggis said on 6/17/05 @ 1:20am ET...

...and thanks Kira. You are right on!



Comment #241: tobes said on 6/17/05 @ 1:21am ET...

231,

and what do you have to say about the book Aint No Makin It, sir Matt



Comment #242: Ommm said on 6/17/05 @ 1:22am ET...

Bless you and the rest of your magnificent Patriots for the hearing you held today, and for all you do!!!!

The Truth Will Out!!!



Comment #243: William Jefferson Clinton said on 6/17/05 @ 1:22am ET...

What is this DSM ah keep hearin' about? Is it some kinda new sex position?



Comment #244: matt said on 6/17/05 @ 1:22am ET...

Kira,

So the Taliban and Saddam Hussein were better forms of government for you? Gotcha!



Comment #245: Abe said on 6/17/05 @ 1:22am ET...

I hope one day history writes about the courage of one John Conyers.



Comment #246: Red Haggis said on 6/17/05 @ 1:23am ET...

Big Dawg....thx for the Letterman/ Clinton tip. I will have to see this!



Comment #247: DCB said on 6/17/05 @ 1:23am ET...

Thank you Congressman for exposing the lies to the light of day. They can play with room assignments, shedule a gaggle of votes to conflict but democracy won't be denied. Keep up the fight. The truth wins out.



Comment #248: Jamie said on 6/17/05 @ 1:24am ET...

Thank You, Rep. Conyers. Though the road to the truth may be long, remember the words of the great Chinese philosopher and theologian Lao Tzu:

"The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step."



Comment #249: Seth Cowen said on 6/17/05 @ 1:24am ET...

After at least attempting to read most of the posts on this Blog, I am motivated to remind all of you that Party Politics is a system of Alternate Scapegoats, designed to divide and conquer the People. I ask all registered Democrats to please understand that you should not be placing blame on Republicans in general but instead hold all individuals acountable for their actions regardless of their Political Party affiliation.

As I understand it former President William Jefferson Clinton is "in" with the Bush Merchants of Death. The whole "Monica" thing was about getting the American People to accept lieing to the American People as behavior acceptable from a President of the United States of America. I admit I was one who thought "big deal so he got some you know what in the oval office". I can not however approve of a Liar being the President of the United States, or even a respected fromer President.

As for all registered Republicans, I invite you to research the History of the Bush Family Merchants of Death. To start with there is
President George Walker Bush

Ex President George Herbert Walker Bush

Prescott Bush

Sam Prescott Bush

I hope I spelled everything correctly and make sense enuff not to alienate anyone.

As for myself I am and have always been a Proud American and I consider myself to be somewhat of a Conservatively Liberal Democratic Republican.

Seth



Comment #250: Lonnie Davis-Velez said on 6/17/05 @ 1:24am ET...

GOD BLESS YOU JOHN CONYERS! We are fighting a REAL evil. I am praying for your strength and wisdom in your leadership! You are simply amazing!



Comment #251: Abe said on 6/17/05 @ 1:25am ET...

Matt,

The average citizen in Iraq lives in much greater fear today due to all the violence than prior to our invasion. Afganistan and Iraq are not yet free societies.



Comment #252: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 1:25am ET...

www.sundaymirror.co.uk

Nov 28 2004

US uses banned weapon ..but was Tony Blair told?

By Paul Gilfeather Political Editor

US troops are secretly using outlawed napalm gas to wipe out remaining insurgents in and around Fallujah.

News that President George W. Bush has sanctioned the use of napalm, a deadly cocktail of polystyrene and jet fuel banned by the United Nations in 1980, will stun governments around the world.

http://tinyurl.com/7vpt8



Comment #253: Lonnie Davis-Velez said on 6/17/05 @ 1:25am ET...

GOD BLESS YOU JOHN CONYERS! We are fighting a REAL evil. I am praying for your strength and wisdom in your leadership! You are simply amazing!



Comment #254: Lonnie Davis-Velez said on 6/17/05 @ 1:25am ET...

GOD BLESS YOU JOHN CONYERS! We are fighting a REAL evil. I am praying for your strength and wisdom in your leadership! You are simply amazing!



Comment #255: New Guy said on 6/17/05 @ 1:25am ET...

#217

A quote from the wise Dr. King:

"Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed."

Does that same quote apply to Iraq and Afghanistan?



Comment #256: Lonnie Davis-Velez said on 6/17/05 @ 1:25am ET...

GOD BLESS YOU JOHN CONYERS! We are fighting a REAL evil. I am praying for your strength and wisdom in your leadership! You are simply amazing!



Comment #257: tobes said on 6/17/05 @ 1:27am ET...

LOL at you, matt.

your assertions are out of wack. you are not even trying to be reasonable. just b/c we know iraq is not free from oppression today does not mean Saddam was great.

freepers are tiresome. pretty scared at the momentum building ineluctably behind the DSM and associated memos and scandals, ARENT YA! this is awesome....

Can we say...we are getting coverage in the mainstream media??? yes, we can! read it and weep, conservative freakazoids. the movement is growing.

have fun out here.



Comment #258: Kira said on 6/17/05 @ 1:27am ET...

Kansas City News

Conyers delivered petitions signed by 105 members of Congress and some 540,000 signatures sent via e-mail to a security gate at the White House early Thursday evening. The petitions urged Bush to thoroughly answer questions about the memo. MoveOn Pac helped Conyers collect the signatures.

Several hundred supporters of a full investigation into the memo gathered in Lafayette Park across from the White House late Thursday afternoon. It was organized by Code Pink and Progressive Democrats of America.

ONLY SIX members of the D.C. chapter of Freerepublic.com held a small counter-protest in support of Bush's policies



Comment #259: Red Haggis said on 6/17/05 @ 1:28am ET...

This IS history my friends. We are validating it right now!!! The truth will previal. Sooner than later... accountability.



Comment #260: matt said on 6/17/05 @ 1:29am ET...

Lemme just remind you folks:

"Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price."

Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)

"Those who doubted whether Iraq or the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein, and those who believe today that we are not safer with his capture, don't have the judgment to be President, or the credibility to be elected President.

No one can doubt or should doubt that we are safer -- and Iraq is better -- because Saddam Hussein is now behind bars."

Senator John Kerry (Democrat, Massachusetts)
Speech at Drake University in Iowa
December 16, 2003

"Others argue that if even our allies support us, we should



Comment #261: not support this resolution because confronting Iraq now would undermine the long-term fight against terrorist groups like Al Qaeda. Yet, I believe that this is not an either-or choice. Our national security requires us to do both, and we can." Senator John Edwards (Democrat, North Carolina) US Senate floor statement: "Authorization of the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq" October 10, 2002 Senator John Edwards, when asked about "Axis of Evil" countries Iran, Iraq, and North Korea: "I mean, we have three different countries that, while they all present serious problems for the United States -- they're dictatorships, they're involved in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction -- you know, the most imminent, clear and present threat to our country is not the same from those three countries. I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country." Senator John Edwards (Democrat, North Carolina) During an interview on CNN's "Late Edition" "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." Senator Edward Kennedy (Democrat, Massachusetts) Speech at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies September 27, 2002 In the next century, the community of nations may see more and more the very kind of threat Iraq poses now -- a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction ready to use them or provide them to terrorists, drug traffickers or organized criminals who travel the world among us unnoticed. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United Nations Security Council and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction program." President Clinton Address to Joint Chiefs of Staff and Pentagon staff February 17, 1998 Congressman Gephardt links Saddam with the threat of terrorists nuking US cities: BOB SCHIEFFER, Chief Washington Correspondent: And with us now is the Democratic presidential candidate Dick Gephardt. Congressman, you supported taking military action in Iraq. Do you think now it was the right thing to do? REP. RICHARD GEPHARDT, D-MO, Democratic Presidential Candidate: I do. I base my determination on what I heard from the CIA. I went out there a couple of times and talked to everybody, including George Tenet. I talked to people in the Clinton administration. SCHIEFFER: Well, let me just ask you, do you feel, Congressman, that you were misled? GEPHARDT: I don't. I asked very direct questions of the top people in the CIA and people who'd served in the Clinton administration. And they said they believed that Saddam Hussein either had weapons or had the components of weapons or the ability to quickly make weapons of mass destruction. What we're worried about is an A-bomb in a Ryder truck in New York, in Washington and St. Louis. It cannot happen. We have to prevent it from happening. And it was on that basis that I voted to do this. Congressman Richard Gephardt (Democrat, Montana) Interviewed on CBS News "Face the Nation" November 2, 2003 "Iraq is a long way from Ohio, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." Madeleine Albright, President Clinton's Secretary of State Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University February 18, 1998 "Imagine the consequences if Saddam fails to comply and we fail to act. Saddam will be emboldened, believing the international community has lost its will. He will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. And some day, some way, I am certain, he will use that arsenal again, as he has ten times since 1983." Sandy Berger, President Clinton's National Security Advisor Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University February 18, 1998 "Ten years after the Gulf War and Saddam is still there and still continues to stockpile weapons of mass destruction. Now there are suggestions he is working with al Qaeda, which means the very terrorists who attacked the United States last September may now have access to chemical and biological weapons." James P. Rubin, President Clinton's State Department spokesman In a PBS documentary titled "Saddam's Ultimate Solution" July 11, 2002 "As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California) Also a member of the House Intelligence Committee Statement on US Led Military Strike Against Iraq December 16, 1998 "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power. We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Former Clinton Vice-President Speech to San Francisco Commonwealth Club September 23, 2002 "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." Robert C. Byrd Former Ku Klux Klan recruiter, currently a US Senator (Democrat, West Virginia) Addressing the US Senate October 3, 2002 Regime change in Iraq has been official US policy since 1998: The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (sponsored by Bob Kerrey, John McCain, and Joseph Lieberman, and signed into law by President Clinton) states: "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime." Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 105th Congress, 2nd Session September 29, 1998 YAWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN! YOUR PEOPLE VOTED FOR IT! said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #262: logical outlaw said on 6/17/05 @ 1:30am ET...

Conyers, you are a true patriot in every sense of the word!

Thank you for all your hard work!



Comment #263: Doug Eldritch said on 6/17/05 @ 1:30am ET...

This is not about republicans and democrats.

Its about mass murdering neocons, democrats and republicans in name only.

The players are,

Wolfowitz
Rice
Clinton, Both Hillary and Bill
Bush, All of them
Donald Rumsfeld
Chuck Harold (Senator Harold!!!)
Bill Frist
Zell Miller
Joe Biden (I firmly believe he's in on it based on evidence)
John Bolton
Israeli spies
Democratic congressman from West Virginia (The man is a vile neocon of no party)
And then still quite a few DEMOCRATS in name only....Being probably the most corrupt in my estimation, to claim this party name.

Republicans join them at the highest level, with almost 100 of them completely in on this murdering, traitorous scam and their stupid idiotic soundbytes.

And they have half-way pull strings control on the corporate media from Karl Rove...Heil Rove



Comment #264: MelanieM said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #265: . said on 6/17/05 @ 1:30am ET...

Thank you, John Conyers, for all you are doing! You are a GREAT American!



Comment #266: Jinnie said on 6/17/05 @ 1:31am ET...

Thank you, Mr. Conyers. You are a true patriot. I could not join you in DC, but rallied outside media outlets here in Denver to demand DSM coverage. Know that you have support all over the country. Thanks again and God bless you, Sir! Peace!



Comment #267: EnfantTerrible said on 6/17/05 @ 1:31am ET...

Thank you Rep . Conyers. You give me hope .



Comment #268: Kira said on 6/17/05 @ 1:32am ET...

#237 said: "Kira, So the Taliban and Saddam Hussein were better forms of government for you? Gotcha!"

Nope, but you can bet your sweet ass there was a much better way to help those people than blowing them up! I doubt you can understand another method if it was described to you.

You only see red and believe in violence.



Comment #269: New Guy said on 6/17/05 @ 1:32am ET...

The average citizen in Iraq lives in much greater fear today due to all the violence than prior to our invasion. Afganistan and Iraq are not yet free societies.

Abe, are YOU posting from Iraq yourself? Or are you accepting the word of an "independent" journalist to help form your opinion?



Comment #270: matt said on 6/17/05 @ 1:32am ET...

Abe, tobes

Ok, bro. Now try to stop them from voting. It's Clinton's plan, we just carried it out for you.



Comment #271: Keith said on 6/17/05 @ 1:33am ET...

Thank you Congressman Conyers, for standing up for ALL Americans, even the nervous freepers.

An outstanding forum today. I salute you for your hard work and perseverance in search of the truth, and for your dedication to saving our democracy. You are a true patriot. May God bless you.



Comment #272: Red Haggis said on 6/17/05 @ 1:33am ET...

Right on Seth! Spoken (typed out) as a true brother...your reality check is refreshing.

I'm out. Peace all...



Comment #273: Reed31463 said on 6/17/05 @ 1:35am ET...

This is a true "shot heard 'round the world". True American patriots know what is at stake. It is give me liberty or give me death. We refuse to give an inch on our inalienable rights. We demand due process. We expect the President to uphold and defend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal. When events come to pass that infringe upon these rights and values, it is our right and our duty to expose those that would deny us that right.

Remember what the Tryrant said, "Some people would call you the elite, I call you my base." i.e. I am the top of the feeding chain and every one else is beneath me.

Thank you, Congressman Conyers!

You are today's George Washington. Your constituency now encompasses the entire free world! God Bless and Godspeed!



Comment #274: Suncoast David said on 6/17/05 @ 1:39am ET...

Thank You Mr. Conyers. You make me want to move back to Michigan. Even with the cold winters.

I can't wait to see what you do next!



Comment #275: New Guy said on 6/17/05 @ 1:39am ET...

I'd like to leave you with this quote because it goes along with what some of you are saying about our occupation of Iraq:

The attitude toward the American occupation forces has swung from apathy and surface friendliness to active dislike. According to a military government official, this is finding expression in the organization of numerous local anti-American organizations throughout the zone and in a rapid increase in the number of attacks on American soldiers. There were more such attacks in the first week of October than in the preceding five months of the occupation, this source declared.

Oh wait, them me clarify for you. This quote is from Look Magazine in 1947 and refers to the occupation of Germany after WWII. Sorry, rebuilding ain't always quick and it ain't always easy. But, ask the German now if it was worth it ...



Comment #276: Wendy Danrich said on 6/17/05 @ 1:40am ET...

My family sends love and gratitude from Naperville, Illinios. I am taking this opportunity to teach my children about the true spirit of America which all of you gave an important lesson today.
Thank you for giving our voices this hearing today. You've given us hope for the America we want for our children.



Comment #277: ELIZABETH DAWSON said on 6/17/05 @ 1:41am ET...

Thank you,Thank you ...for restoring my faith in our political system!As the mom of a soldier currently serving his SECOND tour of duty in Iraq,I beg you to continue your quest,and will support you with every ounce of strength and determination I can muster.You are a true hero to America.God bless you.



Comment #278: Sandy said on 6/17/05 @ 1:41am ET...

Rep. Conyers, saying thank you just doesn't seem to be enough.

It's hard to describe the tremendous pride I felt as I watched your forum today. Despite all the 'tricks' to stop you, you did not relent.

Mr. Conyers, I truly hope you realize that not just anyone could have done what you've accomplished so far. I feel it is your leadership ability, along with the respect you've deservedly earned that has enabled you to gather the support of so many members of Congress and the public.

Your tireless work on behalf of the American people to get the truth is truly admirable. Thank You!



Comment #279: metta said on 6/17/05 @ 1:41am ET...

Mr Conyers, you are a great Great Hero!!

please feel us all standing with you, constantly!

with deepest admiration and gratitude, always!!



Comment #280: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 1:41am ET...

Bill Clinton was on Letterman tonight, and when asked by Dave about the DSM, he replied "What's that?"

Now THAT'S gonna sting in the morning!



Comment #281: Hey said on 6/17/05 @ 1:41am ET...

Read where that "I call you my base" quote comes from.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/10/18/politics/main242210.shtml



Comment #282: Doug Eldritch said on 6/17/05 @ 1:44am ET...

That hateful vile monster Scott Mclellan said that the people all over Iraq are dangerous evil people. The people in the prison are dangerous evil people.

He disgusts me to no end, those are good hard working civilians sick of your god damn army!!!!! He's such a fascist, just like his GOP brother Santorum.

There is nothing at all good about what he said, and my stomach turned seeing him even dismiss the downing street. Oh yes, so what now we're there. So what is that you lied, committed mass crimes, and nobody is going to go away until you answer to those.

Thank you John Conyers, for standing up once again, to this totally repulsive evil. What we have here is worse than Saddom hussein. Saddom was a bad guy who opressed his people, but he didn't round them all up into jails. He didn't blow up bodies everywhere. Bush administration is a far worse, heinous killer than Saddom ever will be. Saddom wouldn't have bothered anyone at all one bit and we could have arrested him, but god damn it, that doesn't matter anymore since it was about "security". I call it out like it is, and say our own protection of our civil rights are far more important. And that this fucking disgusting Administration is festering the same opression in another country and its own country.

Doug



Comment #283: ChrisW said on 6/17/05 @ 1:44am ET...

Mr. Chairman (sorry, I couldn't resist),

I was one of the half a million who signed the letter you delivered to the whitehouse today. I watched you on CSPAN-3 this afternoon and I just want to thank you for your and your colleague's service. Your actions give me faith in our country; that we can rebound from this, another embarassing point in our history. Tonight, I will sleep well -- I am proud. Your service makes me proud.

Thank You.
Chris



Comment #284: New Guy said on 6/17/05 @ 1:46am ET...

And let me remind you, there were Congressional hearings about whether or not Roosevelt knew about Pearl Harbor and let it happen.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/pearl_harbor.



Comment #285: htm http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/pearl.html Allegations that he'd gotten us into a war in Europe illegally. This is how you're going to be remembered in history. said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #286: matt said on 6/17/05 @ 1:46am ET...

"Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price."

Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)

"Those who doubted whether Iraq or the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein, and those who believe today that we are not safer with his capture, don't have the judgment to be President, or the credibility to be elected President.

No one can doubt or should doubt that we are safer -- and Iraq is better -- because Saddam Hussein is now behind bars."

Senator John Kerry (Democrat, Massachusetts)
Speech at Drake University in Iowa
December 16, 2003

I gotta go to bed too.

However, with most Americans having unrestricted access to the truth, well, I gotta feel a bit sorry for you. Give up the party of socialism! What do you lose? Taxes? Global instability? Meaningless postureing? I put it to you, Conyers, why not switch teams to the winning one? The party of Lincoln, not Jim Crow! The party of Reagan, not Carter! The party of tax cuts to taxpayers, not handouts to welfare recipients!

After losing 2002, we all know that 2006 will be a Democratic reelection year. Might as well make it successful for yourself! Embrace your constituants! Become Republican! If Jon Stewart himself wonders about Bush's rise to glory, so should you!



Comment #287: Chris Davis said on 6/17/05 @ 1:46am ET...

You renew my faith in that which is good about our country. When bush was "elected" the first time, I felt that it was a terrible mistake. When he was "elected" the second time I knew Democracy was on the ropes. Thank you for leading this fight to restore Democracy to America. There are no words strong enough to express my gratitude. Lead on sir.



Comment #288: Marti Reed said on 6/17/05 @ 1:49am ET...

Photos of Rep. Conyers deliverring 560,000 signatures to the White House are at:
http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/update/index.php#comments

Thank you so much! I sent this page out to all of my friends who signed the letter. I believe this to be a historical date. We The People begin to find a way to speak truth to power.

Thank you for your courageous leadership, Rep. Conyers.

Marti
in Albuquerque, New Mexico



Comment #289: Rusty said on 6/17/05 @ 1:52am ET...

Hey "New Guy"

Has is it occurred to you that World War II wasn't an ILLEGAL WAR? Furthermore, today's Germans are against the Bush regime because they KNOW FASCISM when they see it.



Comment #290: Red Haggis said on 6/17/05 @ 1:53am ET...

http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/124445/index.php

Above link will take you to the DC Indy page with pics of JC delivering the goods.



Comment #291: Rusty said on 6/17/05 @ 1:55am ET...

Hey New Guy,

It figures that you are in the "FDR knew about Pearl Harbor" lunatic fringe. Take your medication before it's too late, you want to stay alive to see the Bush regime crash and burn.



Comment #292: Doug Eldritch said on 6/17/05 @ 1:58am ET...

matt, Conyers will never be a republican.

The fringe amount of decent republicans left need to form their own party, and leave entirely. It's going down the pike as a disaster.

Now they have started a bombing raid in Iran (but of course the USA being involved is omitted)
http://www.yahoo.com

Doug



Comment #293: SteveB said on 6/17/05 @ 1:58am ET...

Mr. Conyers, thank you for helping all of us take a stand against the abuse of power.



Comment #294: New Guy said on 6/17/05 @ 1:58am ET...

Hey "Rusty"

Are you aware there were actual Congressional hearings concerning the legality of entering WWII? Geez, read your history before you open your mouth. Germans today have forgotten what facism is. You're going to tell me that the resurgence of the Nazi party in Germany is Bush's fault too?



Comment #295: New Guy said on 6/17/05 @ 2:03am ET...

Wow, Rusty, you consistantly miss the point, don't you? Are you willfully ignorant or is it congenital?

My point was, the exact same theories existed for WWII as are being drug up now for Iraq. Rosevelt knew about Pearl Harbor/Bush knew about 9/11. WWII was illegal/Iraq War is illegal. Did I type that too quickly for you to get?



Comment #296: My2Sense said on 6/17/05 @ 2:03am ET...

Dear Rep. Conyers,

Bravo, sir! and THANK YOU!

I stand with you, my wife stands with you and the world will soon take note that true American ideals and values are not vapid sound-bytes and photo-ops, but sound deeds and the willingness to take a stand against evil done in our name, and without our consent.

You were careful to remind us that this was only a beginning, and it is that- but I stand with you now, and would be honored to stand with you until the end- until those White-House gates are finally re-opened, and true American patriots are once again welcome inside.

(Also intended for Reps. Frank, Jackson Lee, Waters,the others I've missed for and those who are waiting to join you in OUR fight to
return Honor to our country)

may God Bless you, and the United States of America.



Comment #297: Melanie said on 6/17/05 @ 2:06am ET...

Thank you so much Mr. Conyers for the bravery and courage you showed today.

Never stop fighting for the truth,



Comment #298: Patriot Acts said on 6/17/05 @ 2:07am ET...


IMPEACH BUSH!


Thanks You!



Comment #299: Rusty said on 6/17/05 @ 2:10am ET...

New Guy,

You say there is a "resurgence of the Nazi Party in Germany" and you also say that "Germans today have forgotten what fascism is." If Germans have forgotten what fascism is, how can there be a resurgence of the Nazi Party???? By the way, I have a PhD in history and you are a shithead.



Comment #300: New Guy said on 6/17/05 @ 2:11am ET...

Sure ya do, Dr. Rusty. That's a knee slapper.



Comment #301: Theresa said on 6/17/05 @ 2:13am ET...

Mr. Conyers

Your Exhausted! That has to be an understatement. Your tireless efforts are truly inspiring. I proudly signed your letter the first day I read about it here on your blog. You represent me and my family and you give us hope. THANK YOU.

I've been reading your blog daily since the first few days of its beginning. I consider myself a big fan and member of your community even if I've only posted a handful of comments. I'm here everyday. I read every post and most of the comments. I have to bet there are many, many more like myself wondering what more could I possibly add.

Thank you for standing up for me. Thank you for standing up for America.

I have heard that you are coming to San Diego in a couple of weeks. I am excited about the opportunity to see and hear you in person. Can you confirm?

God Bless you. Sincerely,

Theresa



Comment #302: in_cog_ni_to said on 6/17/05 @ 2:13am ET...

Congressman Conyers,
I just had to post a THANK YOU for all you have done! The hearing today was simply amazing! You are my HERO!



Comment #303: nadin abbott said on 6/17/05 @ 2:14am ET...

Sir what a day? I admire you for the patriot you are, and for the love of country you displayed today. From a former military family (shoot I guess once you are one, you remain one, hubby retired last year) thank you Sir. We need to expose the lies, and we need to impeach the bastards... anger, white hot anger, runs through the veins of many military families, as our families have been abused by these bastards.

Thank you Sir, God bless and watch your back.

Nadin



Comment #304: eleny said on 6/17/05 @ 2:15am ET...

Thank you,



Comment #305: John Conyers, for everything you've done for us by today's forum. I wish you were my Rep in Congress! said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #306: Rusty said on 6/17/05 @ 2:16am ET...

Answer my question, New Guy. According to you, Germans have forgotten what fascism is, so why is there a resurgence of Nazism in Germany? Can explain to us how you can contradict yourself in your own post?



Comment #307: exBuckeye said on 6/17/05 @ 2:19am ET...

I am humbled by your actions. Thank you, Representative Conyers.



Comment #308: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 2:19am ET...

Did the White House shut down after downing street dot org site?

www.afterdowningstreet.org



Comment #309: Hannah said on 6/17/05 @ 2:19am ET...

Wow, great job all around, and esp. to Rep. Conyers for his leadership!!!

An article about the forum and delivery of petitions has hit the Yahoo main page:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050617/ap_on_go_co/downing_street_memo

Although paragraph three of this article is incorrect - perhaps Rep. Conyers' staff can call and correct this.

I was able to watch a "replay" of the forum as CSPAN2 showed it tonight (I don't get CSPAN3). And in case any of you missed it, CSPAN2 will be showing it again tomorrow night at 8pm EDT.

If John Kerry is indeed investigating the DSM, etc., bush&co. had better watch out. Think back on Iran-contra... :-)



Comment #310: zola said on 6/17/05 @ 2:21am ET...

Thank you, Congressman Conyers, you are indeed a patriot. The gratitude & respect that I feel for you is immeasurable. Please continue in your efforts to hold this criminal administration accountable, I will be with you every step of the way.

Peace



Comment #311: In Awe of the Brave said on 6/17/05 @ 2:23am ET...

Thankyou Rep. Conyers and your staff and our compatriots on the Judiciary Committee. It felt tremendous to see you hand my signature through the bars of the locked gates to Our White House. I hope it won't be long before enough of the peoples civil servants come out from where they are hiding and speak truth to power.

This has been the best day I have had since before the horrendous events on 9-11 and the subsequent anthrax attacks.



Comment #312: Jeff said on 6/17/05 @ 2:25am ET...

Thank you so much for representing the wishes of so many people.



Comment #313: TW said on 6/17/05 @ 2:26am ET...

Thank-you Mr Conyers for giving me faith in America again. You are a true hero!



Comment #314: Dr, Jay said on 6/17/05 @ 2:33am ET...

Forward from Rose King everyone!!!
Read it and spread it!!!

J

http://www.dembloggers.com/
(Watch John Conyers!)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:47:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: "ROSE KING"
Subject: Forgiveness
To: "APFN Yahoogroups" ,
CC:,"RadioLiberty" ,actforchange@act.actforchange.com,
"American Patriot party" , ,theaquariandr@yahoo.com

Pre-text:

Hey everyone, I am alright after having brain surgery yesterday! Holy dear was it ever intense! It was really touch and go for a while there. They say I will be OK and recover right away! What an ordeal it has been!! I hear it was a very simple operation too. The brain surgeon removed FEAR and I am going to live eternally and happily ever after!

Reverent thanks to Our Father for that one!

6-13-05

Tell ya what we’ll do kids…

It is plain and simple and by the word of God do we take the lead in seeing the eternal truth take its dutiful blessing to all the people little by little. The little snow flake that was tripping down the mountain one day has now turned into an ever-growing full on snow ball and it’s fast bearing down on the town of Babylon!

And the tyrants are panicking knowing that it is only a matter of a smaller amount of time then they realize before the real law enforcement with the full force of GOD and the mass mind and hearts of the worlds righteous going in behind them to do what is long over do. They lurk unseen and unknown as the Knights they are watching…knowing the time is close.

There are too many petty tyrants running around in America! They are power mad, badged, gun wearing thugs and mean to enslave anyone that bucks Prezident George Orwell and those good old boys of the fourth Reich! The California Highway Patrol already considers themselves federal police and do not recognize state laws. The first step in a dictatorship is to nationalize the states Gestapo police force. Zig hiel!!

As congressmen and senators get on board, or jump overboard being as both events are really taking place and long over do too, they all realize that the only way to save their own carcasses is to fall in line with the growing public wave of awakening. There are few without the guilt of complicity in the 911 event, or those all that voted for the Patriot Act and all the other Draconian Acts passed to kill us all off.

They are now really doing the right thing and God’s word to them all is that salvation comes in forgiveness and your real Acts of repentance to your people will decide your own fates. We continue to pray for those that hold onto the dark force thinking it will prevail. What they don’t realize is that Lucifer has already turned to the Light-side realizing that the only way to get through to the next stage of earth advancement is to act as the One we are.

Those lower under-lings don’t even know their own Master is working like Obe One Kanobi did after he went back over to the other side where Light force originates. Strange don’t you think to have such great graphical examples to use in the expression of this message!

We can doooo it!

The minds are waking like fresh sprouted new plant life springing forth in abundance and thriving in favor of over-Lording the virus of satan and the legions of slimeic sludge they have manipulated as the useless fools for generations. Even the higher-ups on the pyramid are turning and thus, Babylon has no idea that the mass of peoples energy is now like a Norton virus killer about to fix the problems and root out forever these vampires that have manipulated the world for to long now.

By the hand and instructions of the true God of Love and compassion do they who are NOW fully spiritually empowered go forth in truth and justice. Yes, they weld this two edged sword to do good service to the dear lady for the sakes of our future and that of those they love.

And because God taught us to say: forgive us…as we forgive those that trespass against us…and they shall be forgiven as well as those that are fast turning to the true light of the Creator.

So God might say to the Nations and all those that hear his voice;

Act and speak as One and forgive those that come forth and turn over their sins to those that will forgive them…this is the wise move and they all know it…so even mr bosh and mr chenay can be re-educated to serve the Lord of Peace and Love! Some of the best servants of the Lord God have come from the very bottom of the barrel to serve on high! Like yours truly! Give thanks for the changes we can make through dialog and forgiveness of all those bad people that have served satan. Give thanks when they turn and repent to save us all!

And we need to talk to those bankster power mongers next…God has a way out for you too!

Channel change: From the Heart.

I am one of Gods vaults of human knowledge placed here to raise the mass mind and heart of mankind to the higher vibrations of Love, Compassion, and Total Understanding. I am sadly dismayed by the amount of sheeple mentality that is thoroughly infected with the real virus of Ignorance. All one can do is still drive hard the nails into the coffin of the “Oil Empire” against all odds of success and pray that God continues to strengthen the awakening mass. We shall endeavor to persevere!

I have personally



Comment #315: known through my own human experiences how wonderful the blessings of a real God are in my un-worthy life. I started as a hells angel and now try everyday to serve the real Most High in the polar opposite way instead of how I once was. I choose to endeavor everyday to serve my world and her people. I pay homage to the real One true God and not the fake plagiarist Pan/Satan/Lucifer of Earth. My simple name for God is All! God is all things and in all places adfinatum! Any good Christian should be asking their leadership this one simple question and demand one simple answer of the two possible. The question is: Mr. bush and cheney and assorted evil minions, WHO IS YOUR MASTER? Only two answers and one is the right one. You can only give one of these answers please without the Orwellian doubletalk to get out of answering this question. Which is it, satan/lucifer or the Christ? WHO IS YOUR MASTER? SATAN OR THE CHRIST MR. Leaders? Answer the people please!!! And truly, the greatest question that every human has in the deep recess of their own mind is: Is God real? My dear hearts, and especially all those of you that have been with me for years, some silent and some vocal supporters; through all the life I have lived, I, the soul I AM can unequivocally tell you all that YES, GOD IS REAL, and there are just to many of my own blessed experiences to elaborate about. It was said well in a movie, “If you build it...he will come.” You got to dream to realize! Look for the blessings in your day when you are walking in synchrisity with your world around you. Take this to the bank of the heart where mind you, all that is truly important is kept safe! Mind you also that we are only temporary in the human flesh and this is not a dress rehearsal! The mission is to learn the lessons of the soul and move on. Collecting unnecessary material baggage is just another anchor to a ship. We leave it all when we cycle on. What really counts up most in the final tally is what you register on the spiritual level, not the material. What is engraved in stone is temporary compared to what is engraved on the spiritual records of God’s Holy Tablets. As someone great once said, "Lay up your treasures in heaven…" This was only a remnant of what the “Christ” taught the people about the recycling of souls and what we call reincarnation. Not much was left after Constantine’s evisceration of the bible for control purposes. (If you don’t see things my way…then you go to hell…fear…fear…fear!!!) These teachings were meant for all people and these books were conveniently left out like the Book of Thomas and those of Enoch. A real education about the Historical “Christ” can be found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Nag Hammadi Scrolls, and the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ. http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/contender.html http://www.devipress.com/articles/nag-hammadi-scrolls/ http://www.ibiblio.org/expo/deadsea.scrolls.exhibit/Library/library.html http://reluctant-messenger.com/aquarian_gospel.htm http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/agjc/ Totally understanding these three books one can really learn a lot about the truths of Christ, or that which they say they seek. And then they the blind will hopefully find it within themselves first so they might recognize it in someone else later. And here’s another channel change: Here’s a little secret the Babylonic forces of evil disguised as our leaders and law enforcers do not realize. When they are doing evil to the righteous they are actually empowering us. If they take us out, we either come right back and eventually find them again if they are still alive to do justice, or we become part of the greater force much like Obe One did in the first “Star Wars” movie thus empowering us all in an even higher and greater way than they can obviously understand. Even in this face of being point blank told this truth, they will not understand it even coming from a truth seeker here to tell them so. When they stalk us and harass us making us sad, they don’t realize what empowerment comes at the spiritual level, the important one remember, and they are furthered to their own demise ever faster than they can conceive. Wow, no wonder they call these guys and ladies “spooks.” These whatever they are beings never smile and their energy is very dark, hate filled, and just plain ugly. What they can’t figure out with all the kings men and women, all the kings horses, and all the kings mulit-billion wasted tax dollars technology is that everyone can see right through them like glass as the continued awakening brings with it the real intuitive capacities of the newly developing spiritual parts of us all are empowered, and as millions of the awakening minds of many millions are discovering. It’s like the power of Ginko Biloba happening to everyone on the planet and it can’t be stopped! This is something Babylon did not calculate into their Hitlerian plans of global domination part four under a fascist Nazi ruling hand on the gun. I am reminded of what the reptilians looked like in that movie “They Live.” I wish they could understand this and just give up like their masters have. We have seen the future and the dark-side loses this spiritual war just as sure as all you have seen it also in the ending Star Wars episodes. How much suffering and turmoil those that cling to the sinking ship until the very last will experience is in their own choices. The smart ones realize this and have repented to receive forgiveness and salvation in the true light and love of the true Creator God. We all would be well advised to take up the flag with those immortal words on it from the dear Mr. Rodney King when he coined the battle phrase of the new-millennium spiritual info-wars, “Can’t we all just get along?” Or that wonderful song… “Why can’t we be friends…why can’t we be friends…” Be well all you righteous hearts, we have already won this thing; it’s only a short time before they get caught up in their own ropes. In Gods Holy Service, ROSE KING What’s New? http://www.dembloggers.com/ http://atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GF16Dj01.html http://www.conyersblog.us/ http://www.infowars.com/c2c/ (TONIGHT!!!) http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/reynolds_on_jones_show.htm http://www.infowars.com/articles/science/vaccines_deadly_immunity.htm http://jackblood.netfirms.com/home/headline.html http://www.alipac.us/index.php http://www.patriotamerica.com/JackMcLamb/JackMcLamb.htm http://www.theresistancemanifesto.com/ http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page.html http://fearorlove.com/news.htm http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2005/tst061305.htm http://richmond.indymedia.org/newswire/display/10579/index.php http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=246 said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #316: Ben Norden said on 6/17/05 @ 2:34am ET...

Mr. Conyers, you are an American hero! Thank you so much and keep up the good work.



Comment #317: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 2:35am ET...

WOW... you should get your own blog spot so you can post a lot of info!



Comment #318: George Dorn said on 6/17/05 @ 2:43am ET...

Mr. Conyers, let me add my congratulations and deeply felt thanks. You are a great American and a true patriot in these trying times. Please keep up the good work- YOU SPEAK FOR MILLIONS OF US; AND WE THANK YOU FOR IT!



Comment #319: Sammy Goldman said on 6/17/05 @ 2:46am ET...

"Make no mistake, Saddam Hussein alone has chosen war over peace. He has defied international law rather than disarm his weapons of mass destruction. Our world will be safer when he is gone."
--John Edwards, 2003

"It has been my view for 12 years that Saddam Hussein must be removed from power if we are to have a more peaceful world and more secure America."
--Joe Lieberman, 2003

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building w



Comment #320: eapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." --Carl Levin, 2002 "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." --Al Gore, 2002. "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." --Ted Kennedy, 2002 "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." --Robert Byrd, 2002 "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." --John Kerry, 2003 "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." --John Kerry, 2003 said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #321: lakeguy said on 6/17/05 @ 2:47am ET...

Thank you Mr. Conyers! I wish all our elected officials would stand up for the truth instead of hiding behind their party's front. You are what a representative of the people should be and I will support you any way I can in the future.

Thanks!



Comment #322: brian said on 6/17/05 @ 2:48am ET...

Its clear that GOP was trying too sink these hearings.
Im not surpised at the end, Conyers was refused entry: which should be illegal. Can he be sure the signatures wont end up in a shredder?



Comment #323: Genghis Khan said on 6/17/05 @ 2:50am ET...

Re #142

Exit polls were enough for Bush to stick his nose in the Ukrainian elections...

And proof can never be had, because the Diebold machines lack the same basic functionality that Diebold has seen fit to include on its electronic banking machines for decades.

However, incidents such as Republican votes totalling more than ten times the number of registered voters in a particular county seem oddly suspicious, wouldn't you say?



Comment #324: Doug Eldritch said on 6/17/05 @ 2:50am ET...

Thank you Rose King, that was incredibly moving. I am so happy to know that this is happening. The days have been long past for them to answer, and the prosecutions to come full circle for the election fraud. There should be no more of this and the masses shall wake up, I call upon all higher power and our real god to deliver the truth.

The truth about this massacre, and now with the truth it shall shine brighter and brighter and republican, democrat, regardless will keep awakening to the truth. They will DEMAND accountability and they will fight, because we will fight and keep them square on the target all the time.

It is our fight, our media, the blogsphere has created a brand new medium. This one will go far beyond the bounds and calls of limit, and strike down the tyranny by making them all wake up.

Doug



Comment #325: Violet said on 6/17/05 @ 2:58am ET...

Berni # 213-This is the MOTHER of all HYPOCRICY'S!! They illegally invade a country on the pretext of WMD, u know, the "mushroom cloud", then proceed to DUMP WMD, on a frightened population!!! OMG!! The absolute INSANITY of it all!! I live now to see the day these criminals get what they so rightfully deserve! I didn't think it was possible for me to be more disgusted and outraged than I already was regarding this evil and corrupt cabal! Words cannot express our heartfelt gratitude for all your efforts Congressman Conyers!! Now is the time to double all our efforts folks, our children's future and the world is at stake!!Did I read right that they are already bombing Iran?? Surely Congress won't permit ANOTHER illegal war, will they? Can they??



Comment #326: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 3:00am ET...

YIPPPPPPY!

Do you believe President Bush misled the nation in order to go to war
with Iraq? * 17491 responses

Yes
94%

No
6%

GO VOTE AND PASS IT ON!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8248969

PLEASE REPORT BACK TO ME WITH THE NUMBERS AS IT WILL NOT LET ME REFRESH THE SCREEN... THANKS IN ADVANCE!



Comment #327: Doug Eldritch said on 6/17/05 @ 3:01am ET...

PNAC can and they will perpetrate another illegal war, immediately and as soon as possible...With their spies already bombing Iran.

They will do it because they are absolutely fascist, and now knowing that there is nowhere to hide they will try to destroy as much as they possibly can.

We will have to re-double our efforts to take them to their fate as quick as possible, because the country of Iran will be demolished. I am not only positive of that but Syria. "Security of the USA" is bullshit smokescreen.

Doug E.



Comment #328: Erik said on 6/17/05 @ 3:05am ET...

I just got home from Washington D.C. (long pause)......

I just witnessed the birth of giants.

With nothing more than a pen, some paper, and a pair of disposable cameras, I attempted to bear a simple witness, and met history.

I would like to thank the People @ the DNC head quarters for lending the space for us to view the hearings. Despite the questionable loss of video feed just as it was getting good. And a special shout out to the kid that found it on the radio.

As the rally came to a conclusion, the common feeling amongst the crowd was a mixture of, the finality of the "let us be heard" quest all came to champion, and the ominous understanding that, and I quote, "this is just the first step".

There were many pats on the back passed around, but there was one in particular that I feel that was given to me by our host, but was meant for another. When I handed Rep. Conyers the letter I wrote, and exclaimed that it was born on his site, he asked me if I was CONSTANT. So bro, this one is for you.

I asked you to tell me if there was "anything I could do?" and you told me to do something. That letter was what I did.

I don't know if that letter did what it was meant to do, but everyone that read it said, "you told them".

I wrote what was in my heart, but it was you, and Sandra, and Mary, and every one of you here, that joined together and answered the call, of one U.S. Representative John Conyers.

We won a monumental victory today, but it is, as was the common feeling , the first true step.

Now, the game is truly.....
Afoot.



Comment #329: alizaryn said on 6/17/05 @ 3:06am ET...

Congressman Conyers, I am so proud of you! It WAS a great forum and as others have said....just the beginning.

Thank you.



Comment #330: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 3:07am ET...

YIPPPPPPY!

Do you believe President Bush misled the nation in order to go to war
with Iraq? * 17491 responses

Yes
94%

No
6%

GO VOTE AND PASS IT ON!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8248969

PLEASE REPORT BACK with NUMBERS... THANKS IN ADVANCE!



Comment #331: Berni said on 6/17/05 @ 3:08am ET...

Congressman Conyers,

You have received FRONT-PAGE attention to this issue FINALLY... in the MSM: Check out http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1556739

America is waking up and they aren't happy (see the poll above). Bush's numbers are at an all time low. Read the NYTimes today: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/17/politics/17poll.html?hp&ex=1119067200&en=b35244a559fdfab9&ei=5094&partner=homepage



Comment #332: Kitty Gambler said on 6/17/05 @ 3:10am ET...

For your diligence and persistence in challenging abuses of power by the Bush adminstration, thank you Congressman C



Comment #333: onyers. It may take till after the 2006 elections, but Bush-Cheney are going down. The desperation and doubt of their online defenders is easily gauged by how many times they must resort to some form of these baiting arguments: 1. You hate America. 2. You defend bloody dictators. 3. You are a liar or else you'd have put footnotes in your post. said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #334: Genghis Khan said on 6/17/05 @ 3:11am ET...

It is really hilarious and in no small part encouraging to read the increasingly-hysterical postings by the Freeper trolls.

You know they are coming to the end of their game when they trot out the old out-of-context quotes from certain Democrats (who were speaking in favor of increased/resumed UN inspections and maintaining the UN sanctions, NOT the illegal unilateral invasion/occupation of a sovereign nation which was no threat to the US).

It's even more hilarious when they trot out the comparisons between World War II and Iraq (simultaneously trying to equate Bush with Roosevelt and taint the entry into WW-II with Bush's illegal conduct). It's odd that Republicans have been trying to un-do Roosevelt's incredibly successful New Deal programs since the mid-1950s. Talk about obstructionists with an "agenda of 'No'".. and they've been getting away with it for decades (witness Senslessbrenner a couple of days ago, and the deliberate obstruction today with the non-stop floor votes).

Howl on Freepers. Hold tight to your fantasies so that when the "shock and awe" of 2006 comes around you can all line up like true lemmings for that big leap off the cliff under the moonlight.

Perhaps C-SPAN 4 will cover it if you're lucky.



Comment #335: Doug Eldritch said on 6/17/05 @ 3:12am ET...

Re-double all efforts, triple them, do it for not the love of the country alone but to save Iran and other countries from being completely sent asunder into babylon.

Do it. Demand every action be taken by your represenatives, you demand them to respond to YOU and do the work for you. Keep the pressurizing forces on in every area you can.

http://www.usalone.com/warlies.htm

Just do not forget the families that have suffered...Those that have died, and the over 60,000 innocents and more opressed just in other countries alone...

Doug



Comment #336: Dr, Jay said on 6/17/05 @ 3:13am ET...

Forward from Rose King everyone!!!
Read it and spread it!!!

J

http://www.dembloggers.com/
(Watch John Conyers!)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:47:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: "ROSE KING"
Subject: Forgiveness
To: "APFN Yahoogroups" ,
CC:,"RadioLiberty" ,actforchange@act.actforchange.com,
"American Patriot party" , ,theaquariandr@yahoo.com

Pre-text:

Hey everyone, I am alright after having brain surgery yesterday! Holy dear was it ever intense! It was really touch and go for a while there. They say I will be OK and recover right away! What an ordeal it has been!! I hear it was a very simple operation too. The brain surgeon removed FEAR and I am going to live eternally and happily ever after!

Reverent thanks to Our Father for that one!

6-13-05

Tell ya what we’ll do kids…

It is plain and simple and by the word of God do we take the lead in seeing the eternal truth take its dutiful blessing to all the people little by little. The little snow flake that was tripping down the mountain one day has now turned into an ever-growing full on snow ball and it’s fast bearing down on the town of Babylon!

And the tyrants are panicking knowing that it is only a matter of a smaller amount of time then they realize before the real law enforcement with the full force of GOD and the mass mind and hearts of the worlds righteous going in behind them to do what is long over do. They lurk unseen and unknown as the Knights they are watching…knowing the time is close.

There are too many petty tyrants running around in America! They are power mad, badged, gun wearing thugs and mean to enslave anyone that bucks Prezident George Orwell and those good old boys of the fourth Reich! The California Highway Patrol already considers themselves federal police and do not recognize state laws. The first step in a dictatorship is to nationalize the states Gestapo police force. Zig hiel!!

As congressmen and senators get on board, or jump overboard being as both events are really taking place and long over do too, they all realize that the only way to save their own carcasses is to fall in line with the growing public wave of awakening. There are few without the guilt of complicity in the 911 event, or those all that voted for the Patriot Act and all the other Draconian Acts passed to kill us all off.

They are now really doing the right thing and God’s word to them all is that salvation comes in forgiveness and your real Acts of repentance to your people will decide your own fates. We continue to pray for those that hold onto the dark force thinking it will prevail. What they don’t realize is that Lucifer has already turned to the Light-side realizing that the only way to get through to the next stage of earth advancement is to act as the One we are.

Those lower under-lings don’t even know their own Master is working like Obe One Kanobi did after he went back over to the other side where Light force originates. Strange don’t you think to have such great graphical examples to use in the expression of this message!

We can doooo it!

The minds are waking like fresh sprouted new plant life springing forth in abundance and thriving in favor of over-Lording the virus of satan and the legions of slimeic sludge they have manipulated as the useless fools for generations. Even the higher-ups on the pyramid are turning and thus, Babylon has no idea that the mass of peoples energy is now like a Norton virus killer about to fix the problems and root out forever these vampires that have manipulated the world for to long now.

By the hand and instructions of the true God of Love and compassion do they who are NOW fully spiritually empowered go forth in truth and justice. Yes, they weld this two edged sword to do good service to the dear lady for the sakes of our future and that of those they love.

And because God taught us to say: forgive us…as we forgive those that trespass against us…and they shall be forgiven as well as those that are fast turning to the true light of the Creator.

So God might say to the Nations and all those that hear his voice;

Act and speak as One and forgive those that come forth and turn over their sins to those that will forgive them…this is the wise move and they all know it…so even mr bosh and mr chenay can be re-educated to serve the Lord of Peace and Love! Some of the best servants of the Lord God have come from the very bottom of the barrel to serve on high! Like yours truly! Give thanks for the changes we can make through dialog and forgiveness of all those bad people that have served satan. Give thanks when they turn and repent to save us all!

And we need to talk to those bankster power mongers next…God has a way out for you too!

Channel change: From the Heart.

I am one of Gods vaults of human knowledge placed here to raise the mass mind and heart of mankind to the higher vibrations of Love, Compassion, and Total Understanding. I am sadly dismayed by the amount of sheeple mentality that is thoroughly infected with the real virus of Ignorance. All one can do is still drive hard the nails into the coffin of the “Oil Empire” against all odds of success and pray that God continues to strengthen the awakening mass. We shall endeavor to persevere!

I have personally known through my own human experiences how wonderful the blessings of a real God are in my un-worthy life. I started as a hells angel and now try everyday to serve the real Most High in the polar



Comment #337: opposite way instead of how I once was. I choose to endeavor everyday to serve my world and her people. I pay homage to the real One true God and not the fake plagiarist Pan/Satan/Lucifer of Earth. My simple name for God is All! God is all things and in all places adfinatum! Any good Christian should be asking their leadership this one simple question and demand one simple answer of the two possible. The question is: Mr. bush and cheney and assorted evil minions, WHO IS YOUR MASTER? Only two answers and one is the right one. You can only give one of these answers please without the Orwellian doubletalk to get out of answering this question. Which is it, satan/lucifer or the Christ? WHO IS YOUR MASTER? SATAN OR THE CHRIST MR. Leaders? Answer the people please!!! And truly, the greatest question that every human has in the deep recess of their own mind is: Is God real? My dear hearts, and especially all those of you that have been with me for years, some silent and some vocal supporters; through all the life I have lived, I, the soul I AM can unequivocally tell you all that YES, GOD IS REAL, and there are just to many of my own blessed experiences to elaborate about. It was said well in a movie, “If you build it...he will come.” You got to dream to realize! Look for the blessings in your day when you are walking in synchrisity with your world around you. Take this to the bank of the heart where mind you, all that is truly important is kept safe! Mind you also that we are only temporary in the human flesh and this is not a dress rehearsal! The mission is to learn the lessons of the soul and move on. Collecting unnecessary material baggage is just another anchor to a ship. We leave it all when we cycle on. What really counts up most in the final tally is what you register on the spiritual level, not the material. What is engraved in stone is temporary compared to what is engraved on the spiritual records of God’s Holy Tablets. As someone great once said, "Lay up your treasures in heaven…" This was only a remnant of what the “Christ” taught the people about the recycling of souls and what we call reincarnation. Not much was left after Constantine’s evisceration of the bible for control purposes. (If you don’t see things my way…then you go to hell…fear…fear…fear!!!) These teachings were meant for all people and these books were conveniently left out like the Book of Thomas and those of Enoch. A real education about the Historical “Christ” can be found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Nag Hammadi Scrolls, and the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ. http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/contender.html http://www.devipress.com/articles/nag-hammadi-scrolls/ http://www.ibiblio.org/expo/deadsea.scrolls.exhibit/Library/library.html http://reluctant-messenger.com/aquarian_gospel.htm http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/agjc/ Totally understanding these three books one can really learn a lot about the truths of Christ, or that which they say they seek. And then they the blind will hopefully find it within themselves first so they might recognize it in someone else later. And here’s another channel change: Here’s a little secret the Babylonic forces of evil disguised as our leaders and law enforcers do not realize. When they are doing evil to the righteous they are actually empowering us. If they take us out, we either come right back and eventually find them again if they are still alive to do justice, or we become part of the greater force much like Obe One did in the first “Star Wars” movie thus empowering us all in an even higher and greater way than they can obviously understand. Even in this face of being point blank told this truth, they will not understand it even coming from a truth seeker here to tell them so. When they stalk us and harass us making us sad, they don’t realize what empowerment comes at the spiritual level, the important one remember, and they are furthered to their own demise ever faster than they can conceive. Wow, no wonder they call these guys and ladies “spooks.” These whatever they are beings never smile and their energy is very dark, hate filled, and just plain ugly. What they can’t figure out with all the kings men and women, all the kings horses, and all the kings mulit-billion wasted tax dollars technology is that everyone can see right through them like glass as the continued awakening brings with it the real intuitive capacities of the newly developing spiritual parts of us all are empowered, and as millions of the awakening minds of many millions are discovering. It’s like the power of Ginko Biloba happening to everyone on the planet and it can’t be stopped! This is something Babylon did not calculate into their Hitlerian plans of global domination part four under a fascist Nazi ruling hand on the gun. I am reminded of what the reptilians looked like in that movie “They Live.” I wish they could understand this and just give up like their masters have. We have seen the future and the dark-side loses this spiritual war just as sure as all you have seen it also in the ending Star Wars episodes. How much suffering and turmoil those that cling to the sinking ship until the very last will experience is in their own choices. The smart ones realize this and have repented to receive forgiveness and salvation in the true light and love of the true Creator God. We all would be well advised to take up the flag with those immortal words on it from the dear Mr. Rodney King when he coined the battle phrase of the new-millennium spiritual info-wars, “Can’t we all just get along?” Or that wonderful song… “Why can’t we be friends…why can’t we be friends…” Be well all you righteous hearts, we have already won this thing; it’s only a short time before they get caught up in their own ropes. In Gods Holy Service, ROSE KING What’s New? http://www.dembloggers.com/ http://atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GF16Dj01.html http://www.conyersblog.us/ http://www.infowars.com/c2c/ (TONIGHT!!!) http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/reynolds_on_jones_show.htm http://www.infowars.com/articles/science/vaccines_deadly_immunity.htm http://jackblood.netfirms.com/home/headline.html http://www.alipac.us/index.php http://www.patriotamerica.com/JackMcLamb/JackMcLamb.htm http://www.theresistancemanifesto.com/ http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page.html http://fearorlove.com/news.htm http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2005/tst061305.htm http://richmond.indymedia.org/newswire/display/10579/index.php http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=246 said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #338: Jacob Matthan said on 6/17/05 @ 3:17am ET...

I watched with great interest and hope the proceedings on CSpan. There is still hope for the US if people like John Conyers Jr. are brought back to power. Rep. Conyers has tackled the most important issues that face your country and the world - the elections and the lies by the pResident and his malAdministration. The very fact that Rep. Conyers was not allowed to enter the White House in this issue shows the guilt of the malAdministration. I hope the people of the US will soon be ready to storm the White House (metaphorically) and take it back, just as they have to take back their Houses of Congress and Senate from those who have marginalised the people in deference to the corporates. (Commonly known as FASCISM.) Well done Rep. Conyers. And thank you from the Arctic on behalf of freedom loving people around the world.



Comment #339: Sandra said on 6/17/05 @ 3:25am ET...

Welcome home Erik! Your committment and stamina makes me proud! Thank you for carrying our 'words' and spirit with you.

cj----

Do you believe President Bush misled the nation in order to go to war with Iraq? * 17894 responses


Yes
94%

No
6%

GO VOTE AND PASS IT ON!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8248969



Comment #340: clang said on 6/17/05 @ 3:28am ET...

This poem is called General William Booth enters into Heaven by Vachel Lindsay. For



Comment #341: those of you who don't know, William Booth was the brave compassionate guy who founded the Salvation Army. I am not a Christian but I find the passion and resolve and redemption in this poem immensely moving and because what is happening here and now gives me the same feeling of hope, I have rewritten the first part of the poem to reflect the events of Washington on 16th June 2005 Congressman John Conyers Enters into History [To be sung to the tune of `The Blood of the Lamb' with indicated instrument] I [Bass drum beaten loudly.] Conyers led boldly to the White House door-- (Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?) The GOP shit themselves and hit the floor (Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?) Grateful democrats followed, rank on rank, Babbling gladly, they thank thank thank The Michigan Man, the giant rolls on In his bid to drive George back 'cross the Rubicon (Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?) [Banjos.] Left leaning bloggers sent scores and scores Of outraged signatures (Conyers groaned for more.) All anti war banners that the wide world flies Bloomed with glory and transcendent dyes. Bush tried to tell us that if we don’t love war Then we must hate soldiers and hate God even more. "Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?" But joined with vets, some homeless and pale Who'd been sent to hell down George’s false trail, Hallelujah! It was queer to see Democrats and liberals at last speaking free (Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?) (END of amended version but read on - it fabulous!) ) II [Bass drum slower and softer.] Booth died blind and still by Faith he trod, Eyes still dazzled by the ways of God. Booth led boldly, and he looked the chief Eagle countenance in sharp relief, Beard a-flying, air of high command Unabated in that holy land. [Sweet flute music.] Jesus came from out the court-house door, Stretched his hands above the passing poor. Booth saw not, but led his queer ones there Round and round the mighty court-house square. Yet in an instant all that blear review Marched on spotless, clad in raiment new. The lame were straightened, withered limbs uncurled And blind eyes opened on a new, sweet world. [Bass drum louder.] Drabs and vixens in a flash made whole! Gone was the weasel-head, the snout, the jowl! Sages and sibyls now, and athletes clean, Rulers of empires, and of forests green! [Grand chorus of all instruments. Tambourines to the foreground.] The hosts were sandalled, and their wings were fire! (Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?) But their noise played havoc with the angel-choir. (Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?) O, shout Salvation! It was good to see Kings and Princes by the Lamb set free. The banjos rattled and the tambourines Jing-jing-jingled in the hands of Queens. [Reverently sung, no instruments.] And when Booth halted by the curb for prayer He saw his Master thro' the flag-filled air. Christ came gently with a robe and crown For Booth the soldier, while the throng knelt down. He saw King Jesus. They were face to face, And he knelt a-weeping in that holy place. Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb? said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #342: Sandra said on 6/17/05 @ 3:39am ET...

Exercise Your Freedom of Speech!

I would like to thank everyone on this site and all Americans seeking truth and justice. For those who are not, I will pray for you.

I encourage all to continue to post comments get on the action lists, petitions, email alerts, and join your fellow Americans in the battle for America.

Flood the US House, Senate, and Executive branch. 'We The People' are the largest lobbying group they need to hear from.

Let your voice be heard from every mountaintop!

Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted; the indifference of those who should have known better; the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most; that has made it possible for evil to triumph: Haile Selassie



Comment #343: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 3:40am ET...

Sandra -

Do you believe President Bush misled the nation in order to go to war with Iraq? * 17894 responses

Yes
94%

No
6%

GO VOTE AND PASS IT ON!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8248969

Either they won't report this... or they will pull a Diebold on it by morning!

For now it's still Outstanding! Thanks!



Comment #344: Bill said on 6/17/05 @ 3:40am ET...

Like so many others my heart spills over in gratitude for all your efforts. I am with you all the way!

Thank You

(and a thank you from DU) :-)



Comment #345: Vyan said on 6/17/05 @ 3:44am ET...

Today's Downing Street Inquiry was indeed a moving and momentous occasion. The modesty of the location gracefully highlighting the patriotism and bravery those involved. I think we shall see the events of today echoed in the pages, and films of the future.

Joe Wilson did an excellent job of showing how his good faith and well founded information that Iraq did not, and could not gain access to Uranium from Niger was systematically ignored, even admit repeated faxes and phone-calls from the CIA saying the exact same thing . This how intelligence information becomes - "Dead Wrong" - when those who are charged with making the key decisions based on that information willfully ignore it.

Cindy Sheehan's presense was particularly powerful - how do you claim those who participated in this meeting were "unpatriotic" when the mother of a fallen U.S. Soldier sitting front and center?

The only Treason here, was performed by the Bush Administration when they sent our young sons and daughters to fight, kill and die on false pretenses.

Former CIA Operative, Ray McGovern, made a dramatic revelation that on Saddam's Son-in-Law had defected in 1995 and stated that all of Iraq's Biological, Chemical and Nuclear Weapons materials had been destroyed in July of 1991, under his order.

John Bonifaz of AfterDowningStreet.org made a pointed case that the deception that is alleged by the Downing Street Minutes reveletion, are in fact, Impeachable Offenses and that a serious and thorough Congressional Investigation needs to take place in order to determine if such a High Crime or Misdeameanor did actually occur. And further, that a criminal investiation of senior Bush Administration officials (Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld) for violation of RICO as well as the lying to Congress should be initiated. (On this he falls in line with Amnesty International President William Schultz, who stated just a short time ago that senior Bush Administration Officials should be investigated and prosecuted for International War Crimes)

Today was a step forward, but it is far from the last step. From what I can tell, the MSM continues to be relatively reluctant at embracing the ramifications of the DSM. For this we need to be understanding, it is not a small thing to suggest that our President has commited such a crime against his own nation and the world. We should proceed with caution, but also with perseverence and courage. Those who seek the truth are indeed Fighting the Good Fight.

The battle ahead will be long, bloody, ugly and unpleasant. But it's a battle we must have, or else begin to see the final fall of the rule of law, the final fall of our Constitution and our Democracy. This is a battle for the very soul of America, and for bringing forth a vision of the nation that either does or does not recognize fact, truth, law and justice. We can NOT afford to lose this fight -- so everyone, from the left, center and right -- let's get ready
to RUMBLE!!!

And may be the best vision of America Win.

Vyan
vyan.blogspot.com



Comment #346: Erik said on 6/17/05 @ 3:44am ET...

You should have seen it. I bet you I have a picture of the 6% sittin' outside



Comment #347: the White House with a bunch of 6th graders! DOH! I'll post my pix on the site as soon as I get my cheap but to CVS. myeasybase.com/Patriot_s4truth.html said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #348: Erik said on 6/17/05 @ 3:50am ET...

Someone please send me any video links from Lafayette Park. I missed everything on the MSM. I just want to see what it ws like from the front. I was stuck in the back the whole time.

O.K I give. I just want to see if I'm in the shots!



Comment #349: Sandra said on 6/17/05 @ 3:52am ET...

CJ

I am reminded of the online polls all the networks were conducting during the campaign which clearly showed the Kerry/Edwards ticket in the lead.

Then just like in the Wizard of Oz, Karl Rove flipped the switch behind the curtain.

So, these days, I boycott most MSM and I flip the switch when I don't like their choices either!

They must be asking about their ratings with Nelson as they continue to drop like a brick in a swamp.

My philosophy... follow the money then cut it off! Do not buy their goods or aspire to their advertisers.

They all must have been really surprised to get emails at the over 2,100 media outlets from me!

Just doin' my job --- I do send a nice thank you card when they do theirs!



Comment #350: BBob said on 6/17/05 @ 3:53am ET...

Thanks Mr Conyers.
You are fighting for America's future! Godspeed!



Comment #351: Erik said on 6/17/05 @ 3:53am ET...

Don't post them, just e-mail them. I'm so drained, that I'm in Bush's worst dreams.lol Dont make me explain.



Comment #352: Sandra said on 6/17/05 @ 3:53am ET...

Here Erik.... PHOTOS!

http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/124445/index.php



Comment #353: Sandra said on 6/17/05 @ 3:55am ET...

Erik -- sent via email also... get some sleep!



Comment #354: CJ said on 6/17/05 @ 4:01am ET...

Are there any good links with lots of Protest photos from yesterday????



Comment #355: Sandra said on 6/17/05 @ 4:09am ET...

searching for more video/photos



Comment #356: Sandra said on 6/17/05 @ 4:11am ET...

This article is music for the soul.

http://uniorb.com/RCHECK/Rimpeach.htm



Comment #357: Marilyn Conner said on 6/17/05 @ 4:11am ET...

To all 122 Congress members, thank you, true patriots.

"I submit to you that if a man hasn't discovered something he will die for, he isn't fit to live."
Martin Luther King Jr., Speech in Detroit, June 23, 1963

"I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word in reality. That is why right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil triumphant."
Martin Luther King Jr., Accepting Nobel Peace Prize, Dec. 10, 1964



Comment #358: Alex said on 6/17/05 @ 4:17am ET...

I have been reading the main stream lie machine coverage of the days events and the only defence is that DSM is old news and everyone knew at the time Bush was inflating his case for war! Amazing. Bush lies were transparient so that makes it ok? Outrage is fuel for action but only very specific charges will pry the Bush gang out of the seat of power.



Comment #359: Alex said on 6/17/05 @ 4:17am ET...

I have been reading the main stream lie machine coverage of the days events and the only defence is that DSM is old news and everyone knew at the time Bush was inflating his case for war! Amazing. Bush lies were transparient so that makes it ok? Outrage is fuel for action but only very specific charges will pry the Bush gang out of the seat of power.



Comment #360: Alex said on 6/17/05 @ 4:17am ET...

I have been reading the main stream lie machine coverage of the days events and the only defence is that DSM is old news and everyone knew at the time Bush was inflating his case for war! Amazing. Bush lies were transparient so that makes it ok? Outrage is fuel for action but only very specific charges will pry the Bush gang out of the seat of power.



Comment #361: Daughter of Liberty said on 6/17/05 @ 4:20am ET...

Bravo, Congressman Conyers!!! The nation is greatful for your service and inspired by your courage. It is our priviledge to support you in your efforts to reclaim democracy from those who would trample it.

As a note to those trolls who are insistent on being part of this forum, I must ask if you believe in the Constitution. It is important for you to understand the separation of powers, and limitations of presidential perview. This document, which constitutes the supreme law of the United States is explicit in giving Congress the power to declare war. That a "man" in the guise of the presidency would deliberately mislead those charged with this solemn obligation is both unconstitutional and unamerican; in short, it translates to "high crimes" which is indeed and rightfully an impeachable offence.

You mistake your enemy. We are patriots, for we give honor to the Constitution. You, sirs, are dishonored, for you pledge allegiance to a man.

"...and to the republic for which it stands, one nation with liberty and justice for all." (the under God part was added later.)

Notice, there is no pledge to a being; it is a pledge to a concept, a set of ideals, a belief born of the enlightenment. Let freedom ring!



Comment #362: Jae said on 6/17/05 @ 4:22am ET...

Bless you, Mr. Conyers. I was moved to tears by Cindy Sheehan. Please save the rest of this nation that pain we saw. Expose the lies of George Bush. I am ashamed to say I voted for him. If only I had know what he had done. Thank you from bringing honor and honesty back to the US govt.



Comment #363: Samantha said on 6/17/05 @ 4:24am ET...

Freepers, bite me. Bush lied. Deal with it. It is coming out and he is going down. Rock on, John Conyers.



Comment #364: Doug Eldritch said on 6/17/05 @ 4:38am ET...

We were all lied to and deceived by these cultist fascists and their insane ideals.

Conyers, I suggest the first part of resolution of inquiry is to assign a special prosecutor. Please contact Greg Palast regarding this matter.

greg@gregpalast.com

He has--Much more evidence, video, testimony and ability to get formal investigations by giving you and the U.S. congress a special prosecutor you can use outside of "mandatory" U.S. actions and under the laws of Constitution Article 1-C.

Doug



Comment #365: Kertis Engle said on 6/17/05 @ 4:41am ET...

Dear Congressman;

Do please take very good care of yourself.

My view is that solid evidence of bent intelligence is what is needed to go to Impeachment. Nothing less, but nothing more. Lawyers may disagree,but I think this is all we want to see.

On another topic, well, maybe it is the same topic, Please ask a staff member to review a transcript of the latest edition of Coast to Coast AM with Goerge Noory. It is a case of serendipity.

Then there is that napalm. Banned huh? Well that would make three straightforward cases for impeachment jelling on the same day.

Do please take very good care.

I appreciate the opportunaty to make these comments.

Kertis Engle



Comment #366: fooj said on 6/17/05 @ 5:05am ET...

Truth is our most powerful weapon!
Thank you for your patriotism, Mr. Conyers! You give us hope!

peace.



Comment #367: Rachel Maddow Show said on 6/17/05 @ 5:23am ET...

Ladies, sorry this is a bit personal.

Air America radio has just advised that our famous Chairman to the House Judiciary Committee, the one and only Congressman James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) is in fact, the heir to the KOTEX fortune.

Ladies, please boycott and tell your family, friends, mothers, daughters, grandchildren....



Comment #368: Patrick said on 6/17/05 @ 5:23am ET...

Thank you for standing for Truth Mr Conyers and for rallying us all together. Have Mercy if its true that the Blood of our beloved soldiers is on Mr Bush's hands, the corporate media who rallied this unjust war, all for greed, and oil. Our tax dollars bilked to line the pockets of Haliburton and friends. WE THE PEOPLE must have the courage to speak up while we still can. The Republican's need to get clear QUICK before



Comment #369: they go down with Bush/Chaney & Co. said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #370: Paxil said on 6/17/05 @ 5:24am ET...

Has anyone posted the names of the 122 members of congress who have sign on?

This is killing me.

:)

Peace.



Comment #371: CTPatriot said on 6/17/05 @ 5:32am ET...

Thank you for standing up for the people and the constitution Rep. Conyers!!!!



Comment #372: Doug Eldritch said on 6/17/05 @ 5:38am ET...

Son of a gun....I had no idea Sensenbrenner was heir to KOTEX. Anyone have all the history of KOTEX?

This is really a big development

Doug



Comment #373: Buy Citgo said on 6/17/05 @ 5:55am ET...

Published on Monday, May 16, 2005 by CommonDreams.org
Buy Your Gas at Citgo: Join the BUY-cott!
by Jeff Cohen

Looking for an easy way to protest Bush foreign policy week after week? And an easy way to help alleviate global poverty? Buy your gasoline at Citgo stations.
And tell your friends.


Of the top oil producing countries in the world, only one is a democracy with a president who was elected on a platform of using his nation's oil revenue to benefit the poor. The country is Venezuela. The President is Hugo Chavez. Call him "the Anti-Bush."
Citgo is a U.S. refining and marketing firm that is a wholly owned subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned oil company. Money you pay to Citgo goes primarily to Venezuela -- not Saudi Arabia or the Middle East. There are 14,000 Citgo gas stations in the US. (Click here http://www.citgo.com/CITGOLocator/StoreLocator.jsp to find one near you.) By buying your gasoline at Citgo, you are contributing to the billions of dollars that Venezuela's democratic government is using to provide health care, literacy and education, and subsidized food for the majority of Venezuelans.

Instead of using government to help the rich and the corporate, as Bush does, Chavez is using the resources and oil revenue of his government to help the poor in Venezuela. A country with so much oil wealth shouldn't have 60 percent of its people living in poverty, earning less than $2 per day. With a mass movement behind him, Chavez is confronting poverty in Venezuela. That's why large majorities have consistently backed him in democratic elections. And why the Bush administration supported an attempted military coup in 2002 that sought to overthrow Chavez.

So this is the opposite of a boycott. Call it a BUYcott. Spread the word.

Of course, if you can take mass transit or bike or walk to your job, you should do so. And we should all work for political changes that move our country toward a cleaner environment based on renewable energy. The BUYcott is for those of us who don't have a practical alternative to filling up our cars.

So get your gas at Citgo. And help fuel a democratic revolution in Venezuela.

Jeff Cohen is an author and media critic (www.jeffcohen.org)

http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/views05/0516-25.htm



Comment #374: m3 said on 6/17/05 @ 5:56am ET...

A few bits of evidence..

..and the truth-hating freeper trolls go totally insane...

...exploding into an insult-a-thon because...

The evidence says they were wrong to support Bush, they still are wrong and they'll be wrong for as long as they'll accept their leader lying to them.

FREEPERS HAVE NO ARGUMENT.

Just insults and name-calling.



Comment #375: Doug Eldritch said on 6/17/05 @ 5:57am ET...

I found this for all our great and proud right-wingers who love this war and everything about it.

http://www.patriotboy.blogspot.com/

It's time to join the cause! Show your country what you stand behind, go forth and become the true defenders of freedom you were born to be!!!!!

The world is waiting and cheering!
(Never mind the *leaders heading off are ehm..fascist..pay no mind)

Please though, true patriots can now finally show their support.

Doug



Comment #376: PMA said on 6/17/05 @ 6:20am ET...

WE THE PEOPLE must come together and STOP acting like angry O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Haggerty to name a few. "Divide and conquer" is their game and we play into it when we start attacking each other. We need to remove ALL those who have lied and deceived the American people regardless if they have an R or a D after their names because both parties are guilty of being corporate whores, who pimp "we the people" out to the highest bidder. Thank you Mr Conyers again for giving us a voice for Truth and returning our country to a proud place of honor and service. When Bush/Chaney are removed from office we must all move forward together and NOT look back. Better things are instore for us all, once the Evil is removed. Peace to all who work for Truth and Light regardless of the R or D, we should do away with party systems that divide us. Thank you.



Comment #377: Doug Eldritch said on 6/17/05 @ 6:27am ET...

Ray McGovern suggested a cleaning of house....

And I agree with all of his sentiments. PNAC's bullshit has poisoned our world, as has their friends the Council of National Polciy. We need to clean all these pigs out and sweep them out of office, their corrupted vote machines (which repubs are now sponsoring to reject "secret code")their corrupted unethical nazis like Santorum, DeLay, Frist and all of the democrats in name only who have no interest in the people.

Even if that means removing Joe Biden, Chuck Harold, Joe Lieberman, and all the other high ranking senate officials like John Kerry and Clinton. I support it one hundred percent what Ray McGovern says. I say get rid of all the corruption, or the disease and virus will destroy us all.

So with that yes its time to bring it back to the people, bring the power of law and union back to our founding fathers and constitution.

Doug



Comment #378: Meg said on 6/17/05 @ 6:31am ET...

To Mr Conyers, from an Australian who's been following this for some weeks, thankyou. This is a world issue and my respect and admiration goes to you for your determination to get to the truth.

To the people visiting this blog, appreciate the trolls. They are here, because they have the freedom to speak their minds, no matter how distasteful it may be. The attempts to prevent this meeting from even taking place, scheduling 11 votes throughout, the interference with providing a space for the meeting to take place, the fact that Mr Conyers and the congressmen who joined him in presenting the petition to the White House were refused entry, indicate two things.
First, the total and utter arrogance of the administration, and their ultimate agenda to strip people of the right that the very trolls who come here are freely using.
Secondly, and most importantly, and in fact damaging to them, it demonstrates they have something to hide. If they were unconcerned with the revelations within the DSM, if they were unconcerned and resolute that this document is not a threat, they would be happy to step aside and let things unfold. If there was nothing to the DSM, they would in fact be happy to address it and have it reflect badly on the people who are fighting so hard to have these questions answered.
The Bush administration are burying themselves.



Comment #379: anon said on 6/17/05 @ 6:56am ET...

First I would like to offer my thanks to congressman conyers for takeing this first step.

Honestly I dont understand the arguments against starting an inquiry. When is simply asking and seeking truth a negative thing? If the democrats are correct and he has lied then it serves both democrats and republicans to remove him. Should it be found out that he either did not lie, or had been ignorant of the lie. Then who exactly does it harm to look?

An investigation itself harms no one. and there is little reason to block one unless one fears that investigation finding something they dont wish to be found.

am being a little more verbose than I would prefer, but I am just honestly confused as to the controversy of the entire issue. An investigation is not an impeachment. it may be the first step, but even so, an investigation if one were innocent would logicaly be encouraged as it would vind



Comment #380: icate you and put to rest the questions around you. I then have to ask, why has the bush administration been so resistant to investigations of any sort? said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #381: Sandra said on 6/17/05 @ 7:02am ET...

The lies continue...

"The educated rumor is that the actual death toll is in excess of 7,000."

snip~

The Bush Butcher’s Bill: Officially, 40 US Military Deaths in Iraq from 1 through 11 May, 2005 – Official Total of 1,791 US Dead to date (and rising)

U.S. Military Personnel who died in German hospitals or en route to German hospitals have not previously been counted. They total about 6,210 as of 1 January, 2005. The ongoing, underreporting of the dead in Iraq, is not accurate. The DoD is deliberately reducing the figures. A review of many foreign news sites show that actual deaths are far higher than the newly reduced ones. Iraqi civilian casualties are never reported but International Red Cross, Red Crescent and UN figures indicate that as of 1 January 2005, the numbers are just under 100,000.

by Brian Harring, Domestic Intelligence Reporter

Note: There is excellent reason to believe that the Department of Defense is deliberately not reporting a significant number of the dead in Iraq.

We have received copies of manifests from the MATS that show far more bodies shipped into Dover AFP than are reported officially.

The educated rumor is that the actual death toll is in excess of 7,000. Given the officially acknowledged number of over 15,000 seriously wounded, this elevated death toll is far more realistic than the current 1,400+ now being officially published.

When our research is complete, and watertight, we will publish the results along with the sources In addition to the evident falsification of the death rolls, at least 5,500 American military personnel have deserted, most in Ireland but more have escaped to Canada and other European countries, none of whom are inclined to cooperate with vengeful American authorities.

(See TBR News of 18 February for full coverage on the mass desertions) This means that of the 158,000 U.S. military shipped to Iraq, 26,000 either deserted, were killed or seriously wounded. The DoD lists currently being very quietly circulated indicate almost 9,000 dead, over 16,000 seriously wounded* (See note below. This figure is now over 24,000 Ed) and a large number of suicides, forced hospitalization for ongoing drug usage and sales, murder of Iraqi civilians and fellow soldiers , rapes, courts martial and so on –

Read the rest here:

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1654.htm



Comment #382: aspiemom said on 6/17/05 @ 7:04am ET...

Where do we want the Troops? HOME
When do we want them home? NOW

(Then give the troops and their families free benefits & entitlements for the REST OF THEIR LIVES. GI BILLS should be FULL, FREE scholarships to any institution the individual vet qualifies for... encourage monetary incentives to those vets as well that seek degrees and trades that help develop alternative energy resources.)



Comment #383: Denise Hesse said on 6/17/05 @ 7:05am ET...

Thank you does not adequately express that gratitude and respect I have for you Rep. Conyers, keep on keeping on, we will get there! Thanks for being willing to fight the good fight against such a formidable adversary!
Thanks for Answering the Call!



Comment #384: ZOMG TEH BUSHZORS said on 6/17/05 @ 7:21am ET...

GET TEH EV0L BUSH!

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Comment #385: dalloway said on 6/17/05 @ 7:21am ET...

Thank you, Rep. Conyers for working so hard to save our democracy. You are a true hero!



Comment #386: Lena said on 6/17/05 @ 7:21am ET...

Thank you so much for your steadfast defense of Democracy and the American people.

I, like so many others, are so happy and proud of you and the 100+ Congresspersons who signed your letter demanding DSM answers and of the HALF MILLION CITIZENS who also signed your letter.

God Bless You Greatly!



Comment #387: dalloway said on 6/17/05 @ 7:21am ET...

Thank you, Rep. Conyers for working so hard to save our democracy. You are a true hero!



Comment #388: Magellan said on 6/17/05 @ 7:24am ET...

Mr. Conyers, I'm grateful to you and everyone who appeared at yesterday's historic forum, particularly those who lost sons in Iraq. It was heartening to see that at least some small portion of our government still works as it should and represents the concerns of the people. I hope you had a good night's rest, it's well-deserved!

By the way, the rude and insulting comments from the Right that appear here can't be any surprise to you; these sad sacks are only following the example set by their boorish leaders, with whom you have plenty of recent experience. I don't think any of them realize how their fears have been used to poison them with hate.

What a shame that restoring "truth and integrity" was just the first of Bush's many lies. He might have been on a par with his father if he hadn't gone out of his way to manipulate prejudices and divide this nation against itself.

The only way to begin to fix America is to find our way back to the truth, and thanks to you we have taken the first steps. Please keep the faith for the sakes of us all (including the misguided Right)!

Rock on,
Magellan



Comment #389: dhaight said on 6/17/05 @ 7:25am ET...

Thank you from the bottom of my heart, Congressman Conyers. I witnessed true democracy in action today.



Comment #390: Alison said on 6/17/05 @ 7:27am ET...

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
If there is any hope of bringing democracy back to the U.S. it's because of you. Thank you.



Comment #391: Kathy Welch said on 6/17/05 @ 7:33am ET...

Thank you so much, Rep. Conyers for the work you have put into this issue. I was equally proud to see my Representative, the Honorable Bobby Scott present at the hearing. I am about to send him a thank you note for working with you in this important matter. I am also happy to be one of the 560,000 plus whose name appears on the request to the White House.



Comment #392: Cheryl said on 6/17/05 @ 7:34am ET...

Good bless C-SPAN. The Hearing was re-broadcast this morning on the C-SPAN everyone has on cable. It is going to be re-broadcast yet again on C-SPAN-2 at 8:Pm EST. This is picking up steam. Thank you Rep. Conyers.



Comment #393: Tim said on 6/17/05 @ 7:37am ET...

Dear Mr. Conyers,

Thank you so much for your valiant effort! Thank you so much for showing this administration that you were not scared of them, as so many other have proven to be. You faced them down, and show the world how bad this administration is. Please, sir, keep up the good work, and I wish there were more people in Congress and the Senate like you.



Comment #394: Diana said on 6/17/2 @ :00 ET...



Comment #395: 005 said on Thank you dear Rep. Conyers. Those of us out in the grassroots fighting for justice are so very proud to have you lead the fight. What a great elected offical you are. Get some rest and get ready for the next round.// @ :00 ET...



Comment #396: Elizabeth Merz said on 6/17/05 @ 7:44am ET...

Thank you so much for everything you are doing to bring the truth into the light. Please keep fighting for us, your supporters. You are our voice and we are proud of you!

Elizabeth in Michigan



Comment #397: Thorne said on 6/17/05 @ 7:52am ET...

Thank you Rep. Conyers, and my best to you and your entire staff.

I believe the original acronym, OIL, "operation Iraqi Liberation" says it all. An failed oil man runs the country, with all the power and force of a great nation to play his little corporate games.

I am planning on seeing this through.

How do we get you subpoena powers?

How do we the people respond to the FAILURE of this administration to address a petition by the citizens to redress our greivances?



Comment #398: rainbow sally said on 6/17/05 @ 7:53am ET...

We need the names of the Congress members who signed the letter. I still can't find them.

The number 122 is not enough to help us identify the Billy Tauzin's and others who failed to make the hyper jump with the democratic party in the 60s and 70s.

Remember, Lincoln was a Republican. George Wallace was a democrat.

We can probably afford to be a little smarter than we have been. There is room for improvement, is what I'm saying. (Don't laugh... I'm just trying to be polite.)

So then...

Where can we find the revised list of all 122 signatories' names?

These and ONLY these should be supported in the upcoming Congressional elections.

Am I wrong?



Comment #399: Dave B said on 6/17/05 @ 8:02am ET...

Baltimore NBC cover up? -
During the Today show this morning there was oddly timed test of the national broadcast system that began right as Katie began to ask Tim Russert about the DSM (they had been talking for a few minutes about pulling troops from Iraq). So the National Broadcast System Test hit perfectly so not to hear the DSM stuff.

Before we get all conspiracy theory on this - did anyother towns (other than Baltimore and surrounding areas) notice this?

Keep fighting John!



Comment #400: Rev. Ann Fuller said on 6/17/05 @ 8:02am ET...

Representative Conyers, I cannot tell you what your conviction and inspiration have meant to me over the years. The American people are truly blessed to have you as our representative on the judiciary committee. I cannot recall a time in our history when the U.S. Constitution has been under assault as insidiously as it is today. I am appalled that the Executive branch of our government would treat a sitting member of Congress with such disdain. What a sad time for America when our greatest threat to liberty and democracy resides not in an AlQuaeda training camp, but on Pennsylvania Avenue. God bless you!



Comment #401: Im with Rosey said on 6/17/05 @ 8:03am ET...

Dear Mr. Conyers,
You are truly an inspiration to us all! As I watched the forum, I realized I was indeed watching history being made. You are a man of integrity and courage, that few in Washington can claim. I encourage you to keep up the fight and see that justice is done in the name of all that have fallen. It was wonderful to see the support you recieved from so many of your colleagues, to see all of the Congresspeople standing there waiting to get their questions answered was truly remarkable. I believe the American People were represented exactly the way our Constitution meant for us to be when it was written. I look forward to the next forum/hearing, I look forward to the next action taken by Mr. Bonifaz, Mr. Wilson, and Mr. McGovern.
My sincere, heartfelt thanks to you!



Comment #402: Jill Kern said on 6/17/05 @ 8:10am ET...

Rep. Conyers,
Yesterday was such a great day for me, sucha great day for our country.
Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.



Comment #403: Annabanana said on 6/17/05 @ 8:11am ET...

Thank you so much for the hearing. Even in the basement, even with the interruption of mal-scheduled votes, even without the huge audience that it deserved, the spirit of Democracy is still alive in the Country and in the Capitol.



Comment #404: James said on 6/17/05 @ 8:20am ET...

Thank You! Thank You!
Rep. Conyers, thank you so much for orchestrating yesterday's events. It is almost surreal to see people in washington asking real questions these days about the events that lead us to war. please keep it up, we are behind you 100%. Thank You!



Comment #405: Julie Wells Volimas said on 6/17/05 @ 8:26am ET...

Thank you Sir for being a Champion for the people. God bless you and your family.



Comment #406: SalmonChantedEvening said on 6/17/05 @ 8:28am ET...

Mr. Conyers, I thank you for your dedication to uncovering the truth while so many others are unwilling to even try. You represent the very best in public service and love of country. No matter how many basements they try and bury you in, no matter how few networks have the courage to run this actual NEWS story, in the end the truth will out.

End this national shame today. Bring our brave young men and women home. Now.



Comment #407: frictionlesso said on 6/17/05 @ 8:28am ET...

Today was the happiest I've been in several years. Thank you sooo very much for that precious gift Congressman Conyers. You speak for me fully and I'd follow you to the ends of the earth if asked. Bless you good sir, a true patriot and hero.



Comment #408: Mary Brock said on 6/17/05 @ 8:32am ET...

Thank you. That this has gotten any coverage at all is a miracle. Please continue to shine light in the dark corners of our government.



Comment #409: Media said on 6/17/05 @ 8:37am ET...

• Write a brief letter requesting the journalists to report on the Downing Street Memo, stating succinctly why you believe the leaked document is significant for the US.

• Send that letter as an email to each of the day’s three contacts.

• Return the next day and contact the next three targets of our media campaign.

TARGETS FOR FRIDAY, JUNE 17, 2005

1. Cincinnati Enquirer, Washington Correspondent Carl Weiser
email: cweiser@gns.gannett.com
phone: 202-906-8134
fax: 202-906-8200

2. Louisville Courier-Journal, Washington Correspondent James Carroll
email: jcarroll@gns.gannett.com
phone: 202-906-8141
fax: 202-906-8200

3. Nashville Tennessean, Washington Correspondent Larry Bivins
email: lbivins@gns.gannett.com
phone: 202-906-8105
fax: 202-906-8200

All three papers have received Letters to the Editor about the Downing Street Memo, but none of them (it seems) have published news stories on it. They are grouped here because they belong to the Gannett newspaper chain. You may wish also to contact the Gannett News Service Washington Bureau, Senior Editor Phil Pruitt:
email: ppruitt@gns.gannett.com
Main phone number: 202-906-8100
fax: 202-906-8200.

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/takeaction.html



Comment #410: John Schoonover said on 6/17/05 @ 8:39am ET...

This is democracy in action. Thank you Congressman Conyers for providing solid leadership.

Your hearings kept me up past my bedtime, but it was worth it.

The fight goes on.

John Schoonover
Vietnam War Resister,
Near Paris, France (Take that you freepers!)



Comment #411: Frank Prinzel said on 6/17/05 @ 8:43am ET...

Thank you!



Comment #412: Citizens' Initiative Omega said on 6/17/05 @ 8:51am ET...

Dear Congressman Conyers

from all around the world your extraordinary efforts for justize are wholeheartedly supported. We wish us all success! Thank you very much and please keep on keeping on your very important work!

http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=impeach



Comment #413: Dear Mr. President said on 6/17/05 @ 8:55am ET...

Contacting the Whit



Comment #414: e House Mailing Address The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500 Phone Numbers Comments: 202-456-1111 Switchboard: 202-456-1414 FAX: 202-456-2461 TTY/TDD Comments: 202-456-6213 Visitors Office: 202-456-2121 E-Mail President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.president@whitehouse.gov =============================== Mr. President, this is the wrong answer. Please tell the American people the TRUTH! ================================ June 16th, 2005 4:40 pm WH Press Secretary Mocks 'Downing Street Memo' NEW YORK With a hearing about to begin on Capitol Hill on the so-called Downing Street Memo, hosted by Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), reporters at today's White House briefing by Press Secretary Scott McClellan naturally raised the subject, albeit briefly. Rather than ask about details or implications of the [July 23] 2002 internal British document--which seemed to suggest that the Bush administration was determined to go to war against Iraq and that intelligence would be “fixed” to support it--the correspondents wondered if the White House was ever going to respond to a letter authored by Conyers and signed by 88 of his colleagues asking for information about the memo. A transcript of two separate exchanges follows: *** Q Scott, on another topic, has the President or anyone else from the administration responded to the letter sent last month by Congressman John Conyers and signed by dozens of members of the House of Representatives, regarding the Downing Street memo? Has the President or anyone else responded? McCLELLAN: Not that I'm aware of. Q Why not? McCLELLAN: Why not? Because I think that this is an individual who voted against the war in the first place [Conyers] and is simply trying to rehash old debates that have already been addressed. And our focus is not on the past. It's on the future and working to make sure we succeed in Iraq. These matters have been addressed, Elaine. I think you know that very well. The press -- Q Scott, 88 members of Congress signed that letter. McCLELLAN: The press -- the press have covered it, as well. Q But, Scott, don't they deserve the courtesy of a response back? McCLELLAN: Again, this has been addressed…. *** Q Scott, on John Conyers, John Conyers is walking here with that letter again, as you have acknowledged from Elaine's comment. But 88 leaders on Capitol Hill signed that letter. Now, I understand what you're saying about him, but what about the other 88 who signed this letter, wanting information, answers to these five questions? McCLELLAN: How did they vote on the war -- the decision to go to war in Iraq? Q Well, you have two -- well, if that's the case, you have two Republicans who are looking for a timetable. How do you justify that? McCLELLAN: I already talked about that. Q I understand, but let's talk about this. McCLELLAN: Like I said -- Q Well, just because -- I understand -- but if you're talking about unifying and asking for everyone to come together, why not answer, whether they wanted the war or not, answer a letter where John Conyers wrote to the President and then 88 congressional leaders signed? Why not answer that? McCLELLAN: For the reasons I stated earlier. This is simply rehashing old debates that have already been discussed. said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #415: Melanie M. said on 6/17/05 @ 8:58am ET...

Thank you Congressman Conyers for Standing Up for the people.

I see that my Rep. is once again not representing me that's Rep. Etheridge N.C. Shame, shame, shame on him for not co-signing Etheridge will be hearing from me again.

I must often look to other Reps. to represent me as mine from NC are failing me on every single issue. Why am I not surprised that once again Rep. Etheridge doesn't do the right thing.

Rep. Conyers will you please work on getting my Rep. Etheridge (NC) to sign.

Thank you once again Rep. Conyers for doing what is right may truth and justice prevail.



Comment #416: Sue H said on 6/17/05 @ 9:01am ET...

#379 - Dave B:
The Twin Cities did not cut to a test here. Unfortunately, you missed nothing. Tim Russert demonstrated the spin that the MSM is going use with this whole burgeoning story...

The exchange between Katie and Tim went something like this: After Katie brought up the DSM and showed a clip of Mr. Blair's response to Katie about the DSM last week, Mr. Russert responded - "Katie, there's no question that there was a massive failure with the WMD intelligence. This DSM memo gives those who did not support the war the momentum to keep raising questions...."

I feel rather sad this AM. Not one MSM outlet appears to have reported Mr. Conyers et al walk to the White House, or the fact that 560,000 Americans signed a petition asking the president for answers. I'm trying not to lose faith, but it seems the W Admin has it's responses down pat (as noted by McClellan yesterday "this is just rehashing old stuff").

I was a young teen during Watergate, so I don't remember how this all started back then. Do we still have hope with the DSM or not?

Oh by the way, W is in the Twin Cities today--send us some energy to get thru his 500 pre-selected "public" townhall meeting here!



Comment #417: HANK said on 6/17/05 @ 9:05am ET...

Democrats Play House To Rally Against the War

By Dana Milbank, Washington Times

Friday, June 17, 2005; Page A06

In the Capitol basement yesterday, long-suffering House Democrats took a trip to the land of make-believe.

They pretended a small conference room was the Judiciary Committee hearing room, draping white linens over folding tables to make them look like witness tables and bringing in cardboard name tags and extra flags to make the whole thing look official.

Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) banged a large wooden gavel and got the other lawmakers to call him "Mr. Chairman." He liked that so much that he started calling himself "the chairman" and spouted other chairmanly phrases, such as "unanimous consent" and "without objection so ordered." The dress-up game looked realistic enough on C-SPAN, so two dozen more Democrats came downstairs to play along.

The session was a mock impeachment inquiry over the Iraq war. As luck would have it, all four of the witnesses agreed that President Bush lied to the nation and was guilty of high crimes -- and that a British memo on "fixed" intelligence that surfaced last month was the smoking gun equivalent to the Watergate tapes. Conyers was having so much fun that he ignored aides' entreaties to end the session.

"At the next hearing," he told his colleagues, "we could use a little subpoena power." That brought the house down.

As Conyers and his hearty band of playmates know, subpoena power and other perks of a real committee are but a fantasy unless Democrats can regain the majority in the House. But that's only one of the obstacles they're up against as they try to convince America that the "Downing Street Memo" is important.

A search of the congressional record yesterday found that of the 535 members of Congress, only one -- Conyers -- had mentioned the memo on the floor of either chamber. House Democratic leaders did not join in Conyers's session, and Senate Democrats, who have the power to hold such events in real committee rooms, have not troubled themselves.

The hearing was only nominally about the Downing Street Memo and its assertion that in the summer of 2002 Bush was already determined to go to war and was making the intelligence fit his case. Joseph C. Wilson IV, a former ambassador whose wife was outed as a CIA operative, barely mentioned the memo in his opening statement. Cindy Sheehan, who lost a son in Iraq, said the memo "only confirms what I already suspected."

No matter: The lawmakers and the



Comment #418: witnesses saw this as a chance to rally against the war. Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) proclaimed it "one of the biggest scandals in the history of this country." Conyers said the memos "establish a prima facie case of going to war under false pretenses." Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) concluded that "the time has come to get out" of Iraq. The session took an awkward turn when witness Ray McGovern, a former intelligence analyst, declared that the United States went to war in Iraq for oil, Israel and military bases craved by administration "neocons" so "the United States and Israel could dominate that part of the world." He said that Israel should not be considered an ally and that Bush was doing the bidding of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. "Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation," McGovern said. "The last time I did this, the previous director of Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic." Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), who prompted the question by wondering whether the true war motive was Iraq's threat to Israel, thanked McGovern for his "candid answer." At Democratic headquarters, where an overflow crowd watched the hearing on television, activists handed out documents repeating two accusations -- that an Israeli company had warning of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and that there was an "insider trading scam" on 9/11 -- that previously has been used to suggest Israel was behind the attacks. The event organizer, Democrats.com, distributed stickers saying "Bush lied/100,000 people died." One man's T-shirt proclaimed, "Whether you like Bush or not, he's still an incompetent liar," while a large poster of Uncle Sam announced: "Got kids? I want yours for cannon fodder." Conyers's firm hand on the gavel could not prevent something of a free-for-all; at one point, a former State Department worker rose from the audience to propose criminal charges against Bush officials. Early in the hearing, somebody accidentally turned off the lights; later, a witness knocked down a flag. Matters were even worse at Democratic headquarters, where the C-SPAN feed ended after just an hour, causing the activists to groan and one to shout "Conspiracy!" The glitches and the antiwar theatrics proved something of a distraction from the message the organizers aimed to deliver: that for the Bush White House, as lawyer John C. Bonifaz put it, the British memo is "the equivalent to the revelation that there was a taping system in the Nixon White House." Of course, Democrats controlled the real committees back then -- though Conyers was not deterred. "We have a lot of work to do as a result of this first panel," he told his colleagues. " 'Tis the beginning of our work." HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAH THIS IS HILLARIOUS! CONYERS AND HIS FAKE HEARING! said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #419: Thomas Fieselmann said on 6/17/05 @ 9:05am ET...

Great work, Mr. Conyers, and thank-you immensely!!

We're a group of Americans in Spain following closely developments back in the States...
We hope that your good work continues successfully!



Comment #420: Barbara DeVico said on 6/17/05 @ 9:18am ET...

Mr. Conyers, words can't express how strongly I feel that you are our nation's hero. I read your blog and am so choked up it's hard to put my words down, but we all are indebted to your for your bravery and courage and loyalty to this country.



Comment #421: Moohoo said on 6/17/05 @ 9:21am ET...

Rep. Conyers - thank you for your courage and endurance, facing down what has become a regular spectacle of abuse of democratic principles (though they grow no less outrageous by the day).

The open contempt for our nation's democratic process displayed by Rep. Sensenbrenner and the GOP majority only hastens their downfall.

The people deserve much better public servants than these GOP criminals... and you're making a huge difference in shining the light on their corrupt and profane abuses of power.



Comment #422: Quiet.American said on 6/17/05 @ 9:24am ET...

Thank you, Mr. Conyers, for your persistence and boldness in holding the Bush administration accountable.

They and their minions would see this country absolutely destroyed just to satisfy their own interests.

Thank you for speaking truth to power and for reaching out to, and including us in the process.



Comment #423: Lena said on 6/17/05 @ 9:31am ET...

You are a great American, Rep. Conyers.



Comment #424: Anne Taylor said on 6/17/05 @ 9:33am ET...

Thank God for people like you Mr Conyers! So long as people like you continue to focus on what is real and important, and refuse to give up the fight, democracy has a small possibility of returning to the USA, after being so terribly downgraded by Bush and his cohorts.

Shame on the Republicans for refusing to show respect to your hearing - and Shame on the media for refusing to report real news, truthfully and honestly - and Shame on the American people who read the fake news and believe it without questioning.

Here in Europe, we have a clearer picture of what has happened and what is happening in the USA, and realise that the election has now, astonishingly, been stolen twice.s

All those who believe in Democracy are with you in spirit. Keep up the Good Work!



Comment #425: Mary Ellen said on 6/17/05 @ 9:35am ET...

Don't give up Rep.Conyers. Our country needs you, our troops need you, and the truth needs to be told to the American people.



Comment #426: Lyn said on 6/17/05 @ 9:37am ET...

I had to watch the forum on my computer yesterday. I sat on my crummy office chair for three solid hours and witnessed history in the making.
You gave us all hope and we are deeply grateful.



Comment #427: Jeff J. said on 6/17/05 @ 9:38am ET...

Great job Congressman Conyers! You really rock! Thank you for your tireless efforts in holding this administration accountable. I'm with you all the way, and when the dust settles perhaps you should consider a run at the Presidency. Maybe ask Barbara Boxer to be your running mate...

Let us know what we can do to continue our support in your efforts to regain control of our country. You will be remembered as one of the great American patriots and I am forever grateful for your courage and persistence. Rock on!



Comment #428: Meg said on 6/17/05 @ 9:38am ET...

Masters of War

Come you masters of war
You that build the big guns
You that build the death planes
You that build all the bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon



Comment #429: I will follow your casket In the pale afternoon And I'll watch while you're lowered Down to your deathbed And I'll stand o'er your grave 'Til I'm sure that you're dead copywrite Bob Dylan. said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #430: Karen Tabaka said on 6/17/05 @ 9:42am ET...

Dear Mr. Conyers~~Thank you! It does my heart good to see the tide turning---hope you slept well last night...I think I had the best night's sleep since the election debaucle (sp?) of November 2004!

I agree with a previous comment that "WE THE PEOPLE" are indebted to you for your courage.



Comment #431: michelle said on 6/17/05 @ 9:45am ET...

thank you for giving me back a little bit of hope in our government. please please continue your good work to get at the truth, for all of us.



Comment #432: Mark said on 6/17/05 @ 9:49am ET...

THANK YOU Mr. Conyers! I watched you all day yesterday from you interview with Dembloggers to the DSM hearing on C-Span. You had a busy day!

It seems like people are FIRED up and ready to take action. That is what has really amazed me. It's the very people posting in here who emailed the msm to FORCE them to do their job. We now know what we have to do.

Had the MSM done their job sooner how many signatures do you think you would have now? You have half of a million already and that is great!

There is strength in numbers and the numbers are growing!
The attackers/trolls who post drive by posts as I call them represent the minority.

Yesterday I went to see what Fox was saying. Their headline was "Dowining Street Downer" with your picture. They don't report news they simply brainwash.

We country has not moved forward under this leadership. The corporations have and that is a fact.
We never got all the answers about 911. http://911fraud.blogspot.com/

We can't get facts on Bolton, we can't get facts on the DSM.

We have the Patriot Act which is exactly the same document Hitler himself imposed under the same circumstances.

I suspect they will go after the internet next because it is so powerful.

Everyday, I wake up in fear of the future of America. I don't fear terror attacks. I fear this administration. In all my days that has never happened.

We will continue to fight! Now is the time for many good reasons. We will not stop the emails and we will not let this administration get away with the lies anymore.

When Bush goes on his "damage control" tour on tax payers money we should really make that our opportunity to expose him. It's the perfect time.

For everyone who is fighting, I would like to thank you for giving me hope in America again.

KEEP UP THE FIGHT!



Comment #433: MagnumDB said on 6/17/05 @ 9:49am ET...

THANK YOU Mr. Conyers.

As I watched the hearing, I was very confused as to why people kept getting up and leaving. I almost thought that no one was taking it seriously.

But now that I have read your post, I am floored at what was really going on! I commend you for being able to work around the Republicans evil repressive ways.

Now could anyone help me understand what the process is now to impeach Bush? Just because he recieved a letter, does that mean he HAS to respond? How do you go about setting up a trial for him?

I was not into politics durring the Clinton impeachment, so I wasn't able to learn anything from that. Hopefully I'll learn through this.



Comment #434: Martha said on 6/17/05 @ 9:49am ET...

Honorable Representative Conyers:

Thanks for all that you do Congressman Conyers. Keep on seeking the truth, and hold this administration accountable. We The People of this country and especially our troops deserve to know the truth. Thanks and GOD Bless.



Comment #435: Tim said on 6/17/05 @ 9:56am ET...

THANK YOU Representative Conyers.

Representative Conyers, your unwavering quest for truth and opposition of the wrong-doing of the Bush administration, make me proud to be an American, and gives me hope that this country will one day stand for all that is good once again. Thank you, sir.



Comment #436: Angel said on 6/17/05 @ 10:03am ET...

Keep fighting the good fight! Whenever I am about to lose hope, you're efforts give me the courage to keep trying and hoping.



Comment #437: John Spiegel said on 6/17/05 @ 10:06am ET...

Mr. Conyers: I hope and pray that your efforts will expose the truth about the terrible invasion of Iraq and the horrific consequences which continue every day. You and your colleagues in Congress have begun the most important work of your life. Do not give up. Best regards. John Spiegel.



Comment #438: Mark said on 6/17/05 @ 10:08am ET...

Contact The Washington Times and let them know what you think of their piece. Remind them as to why they were FORCED into a small room.

Let them know they don't represent you!

http://www.washtimes.com/contact-us/



Comment #439: Steve said on 6/17/05 @ 10:08am ET...

To The Honorable Representative Conyers:

Thank you and all of the persons who participated in the hearing yesterday. It was good to see people exercising their civic rights and demanding answers from questionable leadership that is proving to be detrimental to the U.S.



Comment #440: Heidi said on 6/17/05 @ 10:15am ET...

Thank you!!!



Comment #441: Daughter of Liberty said on 6/17/05 @ 10:17am ET...

It's the Washington Times, Hank!

They put the proceedings through the normal spin cycle.



Comment #442: Donna R said on 6/17/05 @ 10:19am ET...

Thank you so much Mr. Conyers. I was, once again, proud to be called an American today. I was afraid that would never happen again. From the bottom of my heart, I sincerely appreciate everything you and the others helping you have done for this country in bringing this to the attention of the American public...we have a right to know. God bless you sir.



Comment #443: Cindy Montgomery said on 6/17/05 @ 10:25am ET...

The high I felt after leaving the rally in Lafayette Park yesterday is still with me today. I have never been so proud to be a Democrat. Watching the immature posts by some Freepers here just reaffirms that we are making history and news and they are worried. We are doing something right to have them froth so. Please keep fighting Senator Conyers..we need you and your bravery. You are my new political hero.



Comment #444: Rich Moore said on 6/17/05 @ 10:25am ET...

Mr. Conyers:

Until George Bush 'became' President the first time I used to call myself a ' Christian conservative libertarian '. But I have changed my outlook radically and remain a Christian but not the Bush kind. Faith in God demands that honesty and good intent are requisite qualities for a leader; Bush has no moral standing and no way to hide his crimes now. I fully believe that the Bush cabal was behind 9-11 and that the future will see him and his cronies vilified as criminals and murderers when the truth is finally told to the People. What do you think Sir about the incredible evidence that exists that shows that 9-11 was a set up?

Many Americans know that the official story stinks and that the controlled media will not talk about it. When will there be hearings about THAT? Thanks so much for all you do and God Bless you for your efforts to get this monster out of power brfore the country is ruined.



Comment #445: Carol said on 6/17/05 @ 10:28am ET...

Mr. Conyers, you were my personal pick for 2004 Man of the Year for your splendid work on Ohio vote fraud. This year, you are once again carrying the battle to the enemy superbly. Your faith that the American constitution can be made to work in these dark times is inspiring, and I salute you for it.



Comment #446: Thorne said on 6/17/05 @ 10:28am ET...

Hero Conyers!
Does anyone know if the Senate has subpoena powers?
Does this petition/issue now need to be picked up in the Senate for a full hearing?



Comment #447: military mom said on 6/17/05 @ 10:32am ET...

Thank you Representative Conye



Comment #448: rs! For myself and for my son! said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #449: MACKEY said on 6/17/05 @ 10:42am ET...

I JUST READ MOST OF THE RIGHTWING COMMENTS AND THEY ALL SOUND THE SAME; IGNORANT, ARROGANT AND UNINFORMED. JUST LIKE LIMBOUGH, COULTER, SAVAGE AND HANNITY. I GUESS YOU JUST HAVE TO BE A GREEDY, UNCARING EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING TO BE REPUBLICAN. INTELLIGENCE DOES NOT ENTER THE G.O.P. REALM.

GIVE THEM HELL J.C.



Comment #450: patrioticliberal said on 6/17/05 @ 10:42am ET...

Get some rest, Congressman. You're working yourself too hard. Thank you so much for fighting for us.



Comment #451: Dee Garrison said on 6/17/05 @ 10:43am ET...

Thank you Mr. Conyers and all who support you! You've given me hope again !



Comment #452: BuelahMan said on 6/17/05 @ 10:43am ET...

Dear Congressman Conyers,

I am a Mississippi native who is begging you to move to Mississippi to represent me.

The freaks I have to deal with here are the President's KKK lynchmen.

You have restored my respect for politics.

Thanks for all you do and I will welcome you as a patriot and HERO when you move here.

Please?

BuelahMan



Comment #453: Matthew Oliver Moss said on 6/17/05 @ 10:45am ET...

We the people of America deserve the right to question this administration in it's affairs regarding this Iraqi war.

If the administration, and republican majority has the right to keep alive the question abortion, how come the large minority and democratic party is not allowed the same right regarding war in iraq?

-taken from yesterdays Press Briefing by Scott McClellan
James S. Brady Briefing Room
June 16, 2005-

Q.Scott, on another topic, has the President or anyone else from the administration responded to the letter sent last month by Congressman John Conyers and signed by dozens of members of the House of Representatives, regarding the Downing Street memo? Has the President or anyone else responded?

MR. McCLELLAN: Not that I'm aware of.

Q Why not?

MR. McCLELLAN: Why not? Because I think that this is an individual who voted against the war in the first place and is simply trying to rehash old debates that have already been addressed. And our focus is not on the past. It's on the future and working to make sure we succeed in Iraq.

I submit the absurdity of our administrative leadership deserves to be questioned, if only on the basis for it's complete hipocracy and distortion of our nation's best interests.

Are the lives lost by American service people, and the lives of Iraqi peoples not deserving of the scrutiny which our repsentitives present the administration?

Transparency is crucial for a functioning democracy.

Thank You
Rep. John Conyers, Jr.
Your leadership brings hope to the tears in my eyes.

And thanks to all the representitives of the House who realize the time has come to reflect on the responsibilities of this nation to it's people and to the people of the world.



Comment #454: FYI said on 6/17/05 @ 10:57am ET...

To contact the Washington Times:
General Phone: 202-636-3000
Newsroom Phone: 202-636-3161
Fax: 202-715-0037
or Fax: 202-832-8285
Phone: (Editor in Chief) 202-636-4863

The Wash Times is published by the Reverend Sun Moon.



Comment #455: Jill said on 6/17/05 @ 11:00am ET...

Rep. Conyers, you are a great man. Thanks so much for all you've done, and keep up the good work. We're all with you! Hopefully we can restore this country to the kind, benevolent nation it used to be.



Comment #456: John Nakamura said on 6/17/05 @ 11:03am ET...

Thank you sir from Alabama! There may not be a lot of us here, but even people in the deep south support you!



Comment #457: jon said on 6/17/05 @ 11:06am ET...

you are a true hero and patriot. THANK YOU!!!! keep up the good fight!



Comment #458: kaliyantra said on 6/17/05 @ 11:06am ET...

Thank you sir, you hold truth in the air.
I watched the entire hearings. Sad , very sad, disturbing, strengthening, but what made me cry was when Ray McGovern recalled Bush's practical joke pretending to look for WMDs in his office. Just disgraceful, immature and disgusting. How is this behavior in a president acceptable. Juxtaposing this story beside the dates that men and women in our armed services have lost their lives was the most powerful of testimonies. Unfortunately, you can't impeach a president for his lack of respect and dispicable behavior. I remeber when Bush did this and it was all over the news. Every one laughed along. Disgusting.



Comment #459: Caryn Oresky said on 6/17/05 @ 11:09am ET...

Thanks you so much for the work you are doing. I am looking forward to watching this unfold and give my support totally!



Comment #460: cw said on 6/17/05 @ 11:10am ET...

You make me proud to be from Michigan. Keep fighting!



Comment #461: Diane said on 6/17/05 @ 11:14am ET...

Thank you Rep. Conyers for doing the work that every congressman, media outlet, and citizen should be doing. You are an inspiration to us all. Thank you for remaining resiliant in the face of so many overwhelming obstacles. We are getting the message through that lies will not be tolerated, and it is all because of your hard work and dillegence. Thank you again.



Comment #462: LynneSin at DU said on 6/17/05 @ 11:14am ET...

122 and counting! 500,000+ and counting.

Can we clone you so you can replace our republican representative here in Delaware!!!

Thanks for your hard work and btw, why not run for President - I'll be first to volunteer!



Comment #463: MadAsHellNewYorker @ DU said on 6/17/05 @ 11:21am ET...

Thank you for protecting democracy. Thank you for alwqys making sure Americans get their voices heard. Thank you for everything you do for America. You are a true Patriot.

John Conyers for President!



Comment #464: karl said on 6/17/05 @ 11:21am ET...

Thank you so much, Mr. Conyers, for having the courage and tenacity to push forward on the DSM in the face of so much opposition. You are a real inspiration and I finally feel like the tide is starting to turn. This is a great day for America.



Comment #465: MadAsHellNewYorker @ DU said on 6/17/05 @ 11:21am ET...

Thank you for protecting democracy. Thank you for always making sure Americans get their voices heard. Thank you for everything you do for America. You are a true Patriot.

John Conyers for President!



Comment #466: MadAsHellNewYorker @ DU said on 6/17/05 @ 11:23am ET...

Thank you for protecting democracy. Thank you for always making sure Americans get their voices heard. Thank you for everything you do for America. You are a true Patriot.

John Conyers for President!



Comment #467: MadAsHellNewYorker @ DU said on 6/17/05 @ 11:23am ET...

Thank you for protecting democracy. Thank you for always making sure Americans get their voices heard. Thank you for everything you do for America. You are a true Patriot.

John Conyers for President!



Comment #468: Bobbi M. said on 6/17/05 @ 11:24am ET...

Keep on keeping on...we've come a long way, but have a lot of work to go - but a journey of a 1000 miles starts with the first step, and this was that step. Thank you, Mr. Conyers, and all of your colleagues.



Comment #469: Markus said on 6/17/05 @ 11:25am ET...

ADMIN: Please see to it that a message board is created, and then disable comments on Mr. Conyers' blog. This is an impossible format to keep up with with the spamming from the Freepers. They are here in full force now, and will continue to try to out-post those of us who actually want to try to engage in some sort of meaningful dialogue. A message board is a far more organized format, and will give you more control.



Comment #470: Eric Paulsen said on 6/17/05 @ 11:30am ET...

I was almost at a point a few years back where I was willing to write the Democratic party off as a bunch of spineless capitulators who were not worthy of my vote.



Comment #471: Thank you for restoring my belief that there ARE a courageous few in government who are willing to stand against the rising tide. A few who are willing to do the peoples business. As someone said upthread, give em hell John! And to all who stood with you, please thank them for their courage too. said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #472: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:30am ET...

I looked up douschebag in the dictionary, and there was a picture of Conyers.

Uh Dan...Conyers isn't a Senator. He will never be a senator. He's safe in his little loony district, but nobody else takes him seriously.



Comment #473: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:30am ET...

I looked up douchebag in the dictionary, and there was a picture of Conyers.

Uh Dan...Conyers isn't a Senator. He will never be a senator. He's safe in his little loony district, but nobody else takes him seriously.



Comment #474: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:32am ET...

I looked up douchebag in the dictionary, and there was a picture of Conyers.

Uh Dan...Conyers isn't a Senator. He will never be a senator. He's safe in his little loony district, but nobody else takes him seriously.



Comment #475: FYI said on 6/17/05 @ 11:33am ET...

I would suggest a message board as well, so the topics can be kept separate. I would like to see a topic on "media contacts" so we can make a concerted effort to blitz the media. I have plenty of media contacts and insider phone numbers that I would be willing to share.



Comment #476: Thorne said on 6/17/05 @ 11:33am ET...

Virtual handshakes and backslaps for all! The criminals are going down.

Thanks to you Rep.Conyers!



Comment #477: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:34am ET...

I looked up douchebag in the dictionary, and there was a picture of Conyers.

Uh Dan...Conyers isn't a Senator. He will never be a senator. He's safe in his little loony district, but nobody else takes him seriously.



Comment #478: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:35am ET...

I looked up douchebag in the dictionary, and there was a picture of Conyers.

Uh Dan...Conyers isn't a Senator. He will never be a senator. He's safe in his little loony district, but nobody else takes him seriously.



Comment #479: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:35am ET...

I looked up douchebag in the dictionary, and there was a picture of Conyers.

Uh Dan...Conyers isn't a Senator. He will never be a senator. He's safe in his little loony district, but nobody else takes him seriously.



Comment #480: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:35am ET...

I looked up douchebag in the dictionary, and there was a picture of Conyers.

Uh Dan...Conyers isn't a Senator. He will never be a senator. He's safe in his little loony district, but nobody else takes him seriously.



Comment #481: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:35am ET...

I looked up douchebag in the dictionary, and there was a picture of Conyers.

Uh Dan...Conyers isn't a Senator. He will never be a senator. He's safe in his little loony district, but nobody else takes him seriously.



Comment #482: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:35am ET...

I looked up douchebag in the dictionary, and there was a picture of Conyers.

Uh Dan...Conyers isn't a Senator. He will never be a senator. He's safe in his little loony district, but nobody else takes him seriously.



Comment #483: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:35am ET...

I looked up douchebag in the dictionary, and there was a picture of Conyers.

Uh Dan...Conyers isn't a Senator. He will never be a senator. He's safe in his little loony district, but nobody else takes him seriously.



Comment #484: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:35am ET...

I looked up douchebag in the dictionary, and there was a picture of Conyers.

Uh Dan...Conyers isn't a Senator. He will never be a senator. He's safe in his little loony district, but nobody else takes him seriously.



Comment #485: sangha said on 6/17/05 @ 11:35am ET...

Rep. Conyers has made me proud to be an American again. He has restored my respect for the innate wisdom of the American people and their ability to be guided by the truth



Comment #486: gord said on 6/17/05 @ 11:36am ET...

Request for video footage of hearings.

Does anyone have video footage of these hearings which was not captured off C-SPAN, or under copyright by a news organization.

I am NOT personally interested in making a documentary regarding Bush administration and Downing Street memo. But I am trying to assist anyone else who might be.

It would be helpful to have a copy of the video testimony released into the public domain. C-SPAN offering streaming video is infinitely less useful then an actual downloadable public domain MPEG-2 copy.

Sites such as Internet Archive and Indy Media often have small clips uploaded by people who want to share the experience. WMV and MOV files. Or just audio.

To help anyone making a documentary, higher quality footage is needed. Small clips are fine for watching on your computer, but to incorporate footage into a DVD, or to use in a broadcast quality documentary larger MPEG-2 files are needed.

MPEG-2 files are typically gigabytes in size. Internet Archive is willing to host such files.

(My) sample:
http://www.archive.org/details/20041102-Last-Chance-911-Timeline
...the MPEG-2 link shows a 2.8 GB file. That's for 44 minutes of video.

If anyone has footage of the hearings, and needs any sort of assistance creating and uploading such a file, please contact me.

I'd be happy to step you thru it (thou I'd only know how to help PC users). If you want, you can send me the tapes, and I'll upload the files for you (have a miniDV and Digital8/Hi8 cameras).

I'm not asking for VHS recordings off C-SPAN. That footage is copyrighted by C-SPAN.

Thanks for any help,
-Gord



Comment #487: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:41am ET...

Hey Conyers, it looks like you found out how easy it is to fleece us DUmmies. Just perform some meaningless gesture, and wait for the money to roll in.



Comment #488: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:41am ET...

Hey Conyers, it looks like you found out how easy it is to fleece us DUmmies. Just perform some meaningless gesture, and wait for the money to roll in.



Comment #489: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:41am ET...

Hey Conyers, it looks like you found out how easy it is to fleece us DUmmies. Just perform some meaningless gesture, and wait for the money to roll in.



Comment #490: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:41am ET...

Hey Conyers, it looks like you found out how easy it is to fleece us DUmmies. Just perform some meaningless gesture, and wait for the money to roll in.



Comment #491: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:41am ET...

Hey Conyers, it looks like you found out how easy it is to fleece us DUmmies. Just perform some meaningless gesture, and wait for the money to roll in.



Comment #492: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:41am ET...

Hey Conyers, it looks like you found out how easy it is to fleece us DUmmies. Just perform some meaningless gesture, and wait for the money to roll in.



Comment #493: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:41am ET...

Hey Conyers, it looks like you found out how easy it is to fleece us DUmmies. Just perform some meaningless gesture, and wait for the money to roll in.



Comment #494: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:41am ET...

Hey Conyers, it looks like you found out how easy it is to fleece us DUmmies. Just perform some meaningless gesture, and wait for the money to roll in.



Comment #495: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #496: m said on 2005/11/41 @ 32:00 ET...



Comment #497: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:41am ET...

Hey Conyers, it looks like you found out how easy it is to fleece us DUmmies. Just perform some meaningless gesture, and wait for the money to roll in.



Comment #498: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:43am ET...

Hey Conyers, it looks like you found out how easy it is to fleece us DUmmies. Just perform some meaningless gesture, and wait for the money to roll in.



Comment #499: Dan said on 6/17/05 @ 11:44am ET...

Thank you Congressman Conyers for your bravery and hard work getting at the truth. You are a true patriot and honorable man.

I believe that you and your fellow congressman showed yesterday that there is evidence for impeachment, not to mention "high crimes and misdemeanors".

Keep fighting. You have our support!



Comment #500: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:46am ET...

All your petitions are belong to us.



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All your petitions are belong to us.



Comment #511: WC said on 6/17/05 @ 11:49am ET...

FYI...

C-SPAN.org has a link on their home page to the Downing Street Memo as originally published in The Times. Old news? Ha!



Comment #512: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 11:55am ET...

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Comment #523: Dale said on 6/17/05 @ 11:58am ET...

Quick, i think Dummie in Dummieland is having a seizure!



Comment #524: JoJo said on 6/17/05 @ 11:59am ET...

This is beyond belief! The president conspired with a foreign leader to deceive congress and the American people and start a war that has cost our nation so dearly. I am horrified!!



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Comment #536: Thorne said on 6/17/05 @ 12:05pm ET...

#497, that's not a seizure Dale, its autorespond as he attempts to relieve a viagra high.



Comment #537: aspiemom said on 6/17/05 @ 12:06pm ET...

This is not rocket science:

Congress Conyers is for the good of the people. President Bush is not.



Comment #538: Linda from Texas said on 6/17/05 @ 12:12pm ET...

Thanks so much, Representative Conyers, for all your hard work, and a BIG thank you to the Black Congressional Caucus for everything you've done. You're the only ones looking out for us ordinary Americans (of all races) and I appreciate everything! A big hello to Sheila Jackson Lee--heard you online & you sounded great! Proud to have you in the Congress, even though you're not my rep.



Comment #539: Eric Paulsen said on 6/17/05 @ 12:14pm ET...

And Dummie shows us how republicans respond when they cant win the conversation. If you can't beat em, annoy them.



Comment #540: spritey said on 6/17/05 @ 12:15pm ET...

A Strategy of Lies: How the White House Fed the Public a Steady Diet of Falsehoods

Colonel Sam Gardiner (USAF, Ret.) has identified 50 false news stories created and leaked by a secretive White House propaganda apparatus.
The 56-page investigation was assembled by USAF Colonel (Ret.) Sam Gardiner. "Truth from These Podia: Summary of a Study of Strategic Influence, Perception Management, Strategic Information Warfare and Strategic Psychological Operations in Gulf II" identifies more than 50 stories about the Iraq war that were faked by government propaganda artists in a covert campaign to "market" the military invasion of Iraq.

Gardiner has credentials. He has taught at the National War College, the Air War College and the Naval Warfare College and was a visiting scholar at the Swedish Defense College.

According to Gardiner, "It was not bad intelligence" that lead to the quagmire in Iraq, "It was an orchestrated effort [that] began before the war" that was designed to mislead the public and the world. Gardiner's research lead him to conclude that the US and Britain had conspired at the highest levels to plant "stories of strategic influence" that were known to be false.

The Times of London described the $200-million-plus US operation as a "meticulously planned strategy to persuade the public, the Congress, and the allies of the need to confront the threat from Saddam Hussein."

The multimillion-dollar propaganda campaign run out of the White House and Defense Department was, in Gardiner's final assessment "irresponsible in parts" and "might have been illegal."

Donald Rumsfeld announced plans to create an Office of Strategic Influence early in 2002. At the same time



Comment #541: British Prime Minister Tony Blair's Strategy Director Alastair Campbell was setting up an identical operation in London. As soon as Pvt. Jessica Lynch was airlifted from her hospital bed, the first call from her "rescue team" went, not to military officials but to Jim Wilkinson, the White House's top propaganda official stationed in Iraq. White House critics were quick to recognize that "strategic influence" was a euphemism for disinformation. Rumsfeld had proposed establishing the country's first Ministry of Propaganda. Gardiner's dogged research identified a long list of stories that passed through Rumsfeld's propaganda mill. According to Gardiner, "there were over 50 stories manufactured or at least engineered that distorted the picture of Gulf II for the American and British people." Those stories include: The link between terrorism, Iraq and 9/11 Iraqi agents meeting with 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta Iraq's possession of chemical and biological weapons. Iraq's purchase of nuclear materials from Niger. Saddam Hussein's development of nuclear weapons. Aluminum tubes for nuclear weapons The existence of Iraqi drones, WMD cluster bombs and Scud missiles. Iraq's threat to target the US with cyber warfare attacks. The rescue of Pvt. Jessica Lynch. The surrender of a 5,000-man Iraqi brigade. Iraq executing Coalition POWs. Iraqi soldiers dressing in US and UK uniforms to commit atrocities. The exact location of WMD facilities WMDs moved to Syria. Every one of these stories received extensive publicity and helped form indelible public impressions of the "enemy" and the progress of the invasion. Every one of these stories was false. http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000140.htm#comments said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #542: spritey said on 6/17/05 @ 12:19pm ET...

http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=225&t=225

Link for Col Sam Gardiner's report



Comment #543: Joel in CA said on 6/17/05 @ 12:20pm ET...

Congressman Conyers,

Just left a message with your office voicing my support and heard you needed it here too from the DU.

Thank you so much for your service and hard work that showed yesterday. You do this country proud, espicially in these times.

Its sad and funny that the only retort opponents have is SPAM and mindless muttering.

Hey DUmmie, do the country a service and enlist, our military needs you as recruitment goals are down.

14 years ago I swore an oath to protect this country against all enemies foreign AND domestic, and I still hold myself to that oath.



Comment #544: Carrol said on 6/17/05 @ 12:24pm ET...

I was never so proud to be a Democrat! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!Mr.Conyers!



Comment #545: susan said on 6/17/05 @ 12:28pm ET...

Thankyou Thankyou!
I was talking to my republican neighbor the other day, she and her group of lady friends whom all worked at the capital for various republicans have agreed that they have lost their party. My father and his stock broker long time republicans are disgusted by the lying and greed of their party. My brother left the republican party in march. His son in the navy says they are doing flights over Iran to look for bombing sights he is sure we will be in Iran soon. He hates Bush. The light is there lets pull our miss guided friends to us and remember as we do it that it is hard to leave a party that once stood for you.



Comment #546: Diane said on 6/17/05 @ 12:30pm ET...

Thank you Mr. Conyers. Please keep the drumbeat going.



Comment #547: Normal Person said on 6/17/05 @ 12:32pm ET...

Wowee. John Conyers delivers 560,000 electronic signatures to the White House uninvited, and for some reason, they don't let him in. SURPRISE!!

Perhaps we should review that part of Fahrenheit 9/11 where Mr. Conyers admits that he doesn't read legislation before voting on it. Knowing this, I'm sure he too all due diligence to ensure each and every one of those signatures is legitimate. Maybe. Perhaps we should get Michael Moore to go through that list and verify all those signatures, just so that we all know how honest this is.

We were all assures that John Kerry would be speaking on the floor of the Senate about this two weeks ago. “First thing Monday morning when he gets back to Washington from Massachusetts,” we were told over and over again. Still no John Kerry.

Please keep this up, Congressman Conyers. You’re providing a great deal of entertainment for the normal people who are enjoying watching all of the clueless moonbats get their hopes up high, just to see them all deflate like a leaky blow-up doll.

And, you might want to consider setting up a campaign fundraiser at democraticunderground.com. They’ve had several very successful fundraisers there, raising lots and lots of money for questionable causes.



Comment #548: Rick said on 6/17/05 @ 12:34pm ET...

Susan said, "His son in the navy says they are doing flights over Iran to look for bombing sights he is sure we will be in Iran soon."
Folks, this isn't a surprise. We who have followed the action and the PNAC strategy know where this appears to be headed. This is NOT a democrat versus republican issue - this is an administration that will destroy our country unless we move to stop it.



Comment #549: HANK said on 6/17/05 @ 12:34pm ET...

SUSAN:

INTERESTING STORY BECAUSE THE OPPOSITE IS HAPPENING IN OUR AREA. PEOPLE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF A PARTY THAT ABORTS A MILLION KIDS A YEAR, A PARTY THAT WILL NOT SUPPORT OUR VOLUNTEER MILITARY FORCE WHO KNOW EXACTLY WHY THEY ARE IN IRAQ, AND A PARTY THAT IS MADE UP OF THE FRINGE FRUIT CAKE ELEMENTS OF SOCIETY LIKE THE 300 THAT SHOWED UP AT WASHINGTON DC YESTERDAY WHEN CONYERS GAVE HIS "PETITION" TO THE WHITE HOUSE.

YOU REPRESENT ALMOST ZERO PERCENT OF AMERICA. YOUR PETITION IS LESS THAN 2 10THS OF ONE PERCENT OF AMERICANS!



Comment #550: Regina Bloor said on 6/17/05 @ 12:35pm ET...

This is just amazing. I've never felt so much like I was living a moment in History as I do now. Thank you for your courage and your commitment.



Comment #551: HANK said on 6/17/05 @ 12:37pm ET...

RICK: IF THAT IS TRUE REGARDING OUR SCOPING OUT IRAN: BETTER TO DO IT TO THEM THAN WAIT FOR THEM TO DO IT TO US. BUT I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IF A SINGLE AIR FORCE OR OTHER MILITARY PERSON WOULD DEMONSTRATE THE CONTEMPT FOR AMERICA THAT YOU ALL DO EVERY DAY BY TELLING NATIONAL SECRETS TO LIBERAL RELATIVES!

SECOND THOUGHT; MAYBE WE ARE JUST SCOPING TARGETS OUT FOR THE ISRAELIS TO HIT THEM HARD!

GOD BLESS GW BUSH!



Comment #552: Erik said on 6/17/05 @ 12:39pm ET...

These tactics are to be expected.



Comment #553: aspiemom said on 6/17/05 @ 12:43pm ET...

Bullies vs. Geeks

Geeks win exponentially...
bullies never prosper



Comment #554: Sleeping Tiger said on 6/17/05 @ 12:51pm ET...

Hey Joel #516
I'm with you on the foreign and domestic thing!
Being a Nam vet I can risk a lip on boards like this ,because I know first hand what it is like being deceived by the leaders of My Country!
Congressman Conyers is a true patriot and I stand with him 1000%.
Those ignorant enough not to realize that he is right ,are not worth any comment from us.
Some folks NEVER learn, even in the face of reality.
I'm willing to bet that those disturbing this forum ,have an IQ of around 89,
and about a third grade education.
How hard is it to see what is going on in our world,not to understand that those that have taken control
are ROTTEN .That,s putting it mildly,if these jerks were face to face with any one of the fine people who are thanking Congressman Conyers here I'm sure things would be different.
PS: note to the DORKS, get an education,then you will realize how totally stupid you all appear to us !



Comment #555: Blade said on 6/17/05 @ 12:53pm ET...

Thanks ever so much MR. C

This day will be remembered for all of us that strugle and keep our faith up in face of so much desdain...

Amaeri



Comment #556: ca has to make a change and it has to be soon. This Country deserves so much better than this. God bless you for you courage and good will. Take care of yourself and stay safe. :) said on // @ :00 ET...



Comment #557: MK said on 6/17/05 @ 12:56pm ET...

Thank you Congressman Conyers. When the smoke clears and the histories are written, you will known as a true American patriot.



Comment #558: neomunk said on 6/17/05 @ 12:58pm ET...

Those who claim to represtent Christs point of view are and then talk about better do it to them before they do it to us... I have long stopped holding onto the possibility that these people are misguided, as it is plainly evident that they are in fact simply greedy, vindictive, small minded people with Christ so far removed from them that it would be funny if it weren't so overwhelmingly sad. You are Americans dammit, act like it people. Secular law is for the nation, religious law is for the home.



Comment #559: Craig said on 6/17/05 @ 12:59pm ET...

Never stop, never waiver, and never give in Mr. Conyers. You are a TRUE American, and I am moved and inspired by you relentless pursuit of the American way!



Comment #560: neomunk said on 6/17/05 @ 12:59pm ET...

Sorry my post isn't more clear, I'm far better at oral communication than written.



Comment #561: Mary Jane said on 6/17/05 @ 1:02pm ET...

Dear Congressman Conyers,

You and your fellow congressmen and congresswomen performed a heroic act yesterday. Thank you for all your hard work and effort to bring the light of truth to the American public. I still have faith that even most Republican citizens, if they knew the truth of what this Administration has done and is doing, would turn away from them in disgust and shame that they voted them in office to begin with.

I never believed that there were WMD in Iraq, nor did I ever believe that our current president is anything but a coward and a liar. It's shameful to have Bush and Cheney represent the United States.

Thank you for your honor and service to our country. I stand behind you 100%. I also stand 100% behind Howard Dean, another American hero.



Comment #562: Charlie said on 6/17/05 @ 1:02pm ET...

To tall the rebublican trolls...

Let me see if I can sum up my thoughts for you on this already being debated....

WE DON"T WANT A DEBATE...WE WANT A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION!!!! We want people under oath, some for the first time.

Charlie



Comment #563: John L. said on 6/17/05 @ 1:03pm ET...

Thank you Mr. Conyers for your courage in standing up to those responsible for the thousands of casualties to our troops, based on a pack of lies. Impeach the draft-dodging chickenhawk!



Comment #564: neomunk said on 6/17/05 @ 1:04pm ET...

Oh, and one other thing. I'm a North Carolina resident who is a Michigan native, born in Monroe, but I've lived in Ypsilanti and Romulus as well. My Michigander heart burns with pride for you Distinguished Gentleman, for you are the MODEL of the true meaning of the term representative. Your relentlessness is an inspiration to one who often speaks to deaf ears.



Comment #565: Seabiscuit said on 6/17/05 @ 1:05pm ET...

I signed the petition and just saw a picture of our man Conyers delivering the petition through a gate to an unidentified White House aide.

It made my day!



Comment #566: Saddam Hussein said on 6/17/05 @ 1:06pm ET...

Dear Mr. Conyers,

Thank you for your hard work. You are showing the world how evil Bush is. Hopefully, with more of your work, I will be set free and be allowed to rule over Iraq once more. Allah Bless you.

Yours truly,

Saddam Hussein



Comment #567: Chrystie in Maryland said on 6/17/05 @ 1:09pm ET...

May "God Bless You" honorable Congressman Conyers and your loyal Representatives that stood by you yesterday. While I could not be there, I was never so proud to see you delivery me and my families signatures.

You sir are not merely a Congressman, you sir are the most patriotic statesman America has. Other's in DC should take notice.

We're behind you all the way, sir. All the way!



Comment #568: Cyber Sarge said on 6/17/05 @ 1:10pm ET...

Just when I thought you assholes couldn’t stoop any lower you prove me wrong. So you gathered the entire “I hate Bush” crowd into one room and declared him worse than Hitler. What a friggin surprise! I wonder if you gathered up all the Klansmen (ask Byrd where to fond them), Nazis, and Muslims they could reach a common theme that all Jews are bad. I want to applaud you for your effort and please continue down this road because it will almost ensure another round of Republican victories in 2006 and 2008. The only sad (or good part for us) part about your “oral lynching” was that CSPAN carried it live and it had all the essence of a MoveOn rally. Next time get Al Gore to chair you whine fest so that it might increase the entertainment value.



Comment #569: Ohiodem1 said on 6/17/05 @ 1:11pm ET...

DUmmieinDUmmieland managed in only 3 posts to prove no competence in the use of the English language, and to attempt to smear the reputaton of someone he/she does not know.

The President does have the names of the 560,000 signers, some of whom are certain to be freepers, thus subject to freeper attack as "invalid". The freepers have been demanding that JC release the names, I call upon the President to do so, since he has access to the entire list and is free to do it.

The last refuge of a desperate Radical Religious Republican Right Reptile is to distract with the Abortion card, they have done in this forum, and it, of course has nothing to do with the topic, which is the DSMinutes, and the Bush Lies for War.

Vyan, can you help with a link to your Blog with the Real statistics re: abortion, the 1.2 million rate pre-Rowe, the massive complications pre-Rowe and the reduction during the Clinton years, and the increases in Abortion during the Bush 43 years?

Freepers cannot win any argument when facts are presented. Your repetition, your personal attacks, your diversion, your general nastiness exposes your desperation. Please keep showing us this desperation, it energizes we Americans who want a full accounting of the Iraqi war.



Comment #570: Abu Musab al-Zarqawi said on 6/17/05 @ 1:12pm ET...

Praise Allah! Thank you, thank you, thank you Mr. Conyers for giving us some much needed help. We know most American liberals support what we are doing in Iraq, but what you did yesterday was actual proof that you did. We got 5 more members because of you!

After we destroy the American and Jewish Crusaders in Iraq, you are welcome to my country anytime!

Love,

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi



Comment #571: Chrystie in Maryland said on 6/17/05 @ 1:15pm ET...

Hey Hank:

We thinks you protest too much. Place your comments on your own Congressional representatives "blogs." Oh, that's right. They don't have open sessions like the honorable patriotic and highly acclaimed statesman, Congressman Conyers.

P.S. To Hank & Trolls: All of you should be ashamed of yourselves, aiding & abetting anti-american sediments, yet you won't. Rather, you live and breathe "rage," and "anger" while the rest of the country spirals downwards. You are the problem, not the solution. Nuff said.



Comment #572: P.K. said on 6/17/05 @ 1:18pm ET...

John Conyers you are a great American. Were behind you 100%. Thank You. And keep the freepers busy. They need to put their money where their mouth is and join the Army since their for this war so much.



Comment #573: $kimmer said on 6/17/05 @ 1:25pm ET...

Hey man, I want to thank you for what you are doing. You are getting my sheep at DU all riled up and soon I can hold another fundraiser using you as bait. I really need another vacation after the andyscam fiasco. So thanks again man and this has toast Bush is legs.



Comment #574: Denise said on 6/17/05 @ 1:25pm ET...

Thank you John Conyers for your patriotic service to our nation. No matter the outcome of the pending inquiry, this exercise in our Democracy is historic, and the truth is going to be on the record regardless.

Thanks ever so much - to you and our colleagues.

To the moles who claim liberals support Al Qaida, I would remind you that the guy YOU voted for decided he was not concerned with Osama Bin Laden and or Al Qaida.

You fools bought the ol' bait and switch. You and Bush are those who support Al Qaida, you all have decided to ignore them in place of innocent Iraqi civilians. Further, BUSH has caused a mass increase in recruitment due to his faux war rationale. I do see some of you waking up now thankfully as Bush's job approval numbers are in the toilet. I predict more of you will come around to the truth eventually.



Comment #575: Joseph Stalin said on 6/17/05 @ 1:27pm ET...

Ohiodem1 you had better check your punctuation before you comment on other's use of the language. Run-on sentences anyone?

P.S. You lost. We won.



Comment #576: Joseph Stalin said on 6/17/05 @ 1:27pm ET...

Ohiodem1 you had better check your punctuation before you comment on other's use of the language. Run-on sentences anyone?

P.S. You lost. We won.



Comment #577: Joseph Stalin said on 6/17/05 @ 1:27pm ET...

Ohiodem1 you had better check your punctuation before you comment on other's use of the language. Run-on sentences anyone?

P.S. You lost. We won.



Comment #578: Joseph Stalin said on 6/17/05 @ 1:27pm ET...

Ohiodem1 you had better check your punctuation before you comment on other's use of the language. Run-on sentences anyone?

P.S. You lost. We won.



Comment #579: Joseph Stalin said on 6/17/05 @ 1:27pm ET...

Ohiodem1 you had better check your punctuation before you comment on other's use of the language. Run-on sentences anyone?

P.S. You lost. We won.



Comment #580: Joseph Stalin said on 6/17/05 @ 1:28pm ET...

Ohiodem1 you had better check your punctuation before you comment on other's use of the language. Run-on sentences anyone?

P.S. You lost. We won.



Comment #581: AmyA said on 6/17/05 @ 1:29pm ET...

Thank you so much Mr. Conyers, the representatives present at the hearing and especially the witnesses. My family was riveted to the rebroadcast on CSPAN. Please keep up the fight. We are behind you!



Comment #582: Boosh is toast said on 6/17/05 @ 1:30pm ET...

This has legs Boosh is toast. Then after boosh is thrown out on his ass our rightful President John Kerry will be sworn in. Then we will surrender to Al Queda and all live in peace.



Comment #583: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 1:33pm ET...

Mr Conyers, there's a phone call for you. It's Gitmo. They want to know if you can drop by for a couple of years.



Comment #584: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 1:33pm ET...

Mr Conyers, there's a phone call for you. It's Gitmo. They want to know if you can drop by for a couple of years.



Comment #585: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 1:33pm ET...

Mr Conyers, there's a phone call for you. It's Gitmo. They want to know if you can drop by for a couple of years.



Comment #586: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 1:33pm ET...

Mr Conyers, there's a phone call for you. It's Gitmo. They want to know if you can drop by for a couple of years.



Comment #587: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 1:33pm ET...

Mr Conyers, there's a phone call for you. It's Gitmo. They want to know if you can drop by for a couple of years.



Comment #588: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 1:33pm ET...

Mr Conyers, there's a phone call for you. It's Gitmo. They want to know if you can drop by for a couple of years.



Comment #589: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 1:33pm ET...

Mr Conyers, there's a phone call for you. It's Gitmo. They want to know if you can drop by for a couple of years.



Comment #590: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 1:34pm ET...

Mr Conyers, there's a phone call for you. It's Gitmo. They want to know if you can drop by for a couple of years.



Comment #591: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 1:34pm ET...

Mr Conyers, there's a phone call for you. It's Gitmo. They want to know if you can drop by for a couple of years.



Comment #592: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 1:34pm ET...

Mr Conyers, there's a phone call for you. It's Gitmo. They want to know if you can drop by for a couple of years.



Comment #593: DUmmie in DUmmieland said on 6/17/05 @ 1:36pm ET...

Mr Conyers, there's a phone call for you. It's Gitmo. They want to know if you can drop by for a couple of years.



Comment #594: Jerry in Gladstone Oregon said on 6/17/05 @ 1:40pm ET...

You are a beacon for the world John Conyers.

I'm Pistons Fan West, and now I'm Conyers Fan West.

I hope that my 5-year old can someday look to you with the admiration that I do.

You Rock... and the Rock is about to Roll!!!!



Comment #595: Dale said on 6/17/05 @ 1:40pm ET...

To #547 Normal Person who referenced Conyers' quote in Fahrenheit 911, I believe Conyers actually said something more like Congress doesn't read most bills before they are voted on.

And, since it is a Republican lead Congress — well, you do the math.



Comment #596: No DUmmie said on 6/17/05 @ 1:43pm ET...

Rep. Conyers, once again you, yourself, has proven how out of touch and ignorant you really are. Is there one quote from Bush OR Blair in the DSM?

Thought not.

Once again, moonbats and DUmmies get their panties in a wad over nothing...



Comment #597: ReformedRepub said on 6/17/05 @ 1:45pm ET...

This is for the trolls...
You Bushie Cheerleaders don't seem to get it. The DSM is just ONE piece of evidence against Bush and his lies. More and more information is coming out about how Bush was actually planning this war, not only in 2001 or 2002, but before he was even "elected." Oh yes, and how about that little DoD contract for building Gitmo in 2000? As soon as he took office he ordered a camp built for prisoners of war. It's on the DoD website if you doubt. Then there's the "other" memo from the UK...official document...that goes into much more detail about the prewar lies and planning. It's not all resting on the one DSM, but an accumilation of many documents and actions of the Bush regime. And lets not forget that the war was actually started well before "official" declaration...um...which is...um...illegal. And I'm not a Democrat or a liberal, I'm a Republican. I care more for my country than I do for a political party gone wild. This isn't about left and right or conservative vs liberal. This about Democracy and protecting our Constitution, which it seems Bush uses to wipe his a**.

Troll Hank, an MSNBC poll conducted after the CSpan hearing coverage denotes that %96 responded possitively that they believed Bush lied. That seems a bit closer to reality than your guesstimation.
And the only women I know of who had an abortion are Republicans...and yet they support the "pro-life" movement. Talk about hypocrits!!!



Comment #598: Dale said on 6/17/05 @ 1:46pm ET...

To #547 Normal Person: I believe what Conyers says in Fahrenheit 911 is that most bills are not read by Congress before they are voted on.

Which means even you, Normal Person, should have a bone to pick with the Republicans.



Comment #599: Kathy said on 6/17/05 @ 1:47pm ET...

I'd like to quote Ghandi, because with the infiltration of dittoheads, and Bush worshippers here on this blog, it is only begitting.

"first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, they you win."

I'd say you naysayers are somewhere between nervous laughter and pure unadulterated anger. Get a little more angry, because then we win.

Thank you Mr. Conyers, from the heart of Texas.



Comment #600: susan said on 6/17/05 @ 1:47pm ET...

Oh howard I actually feel sorry for you. You might want to checkout the lastest polls on that raging flood joing the bushies. If you are so patriotic join up! but check out the number of your friends in the White House and congress who have served or have children who serve it speakes for itself. If the morons in WA.DC. had to have 60 percent of their members have one family member in the army at ground level do you really think we would be in Iraq?
well you probably do cause there is no link to reality with the neo defenders so sad. but please feel free to go serve in Iraq, they have some really cool spider that I am sure you would enjoy, or maybe the other way around.



Comment #601: Constant said on 6/17/05 @ 1:49pm ET...

Congressman Conyers,

Here's an asssment of the White House effort to use the Senate to stifle inquiry into the DSM. [More . . . ]

Congrats on your accomplishments at the hearing.

Very respectfully,

Constant



Comment #602: Genghis Khan said on 6/17/05 @ 1:52pm ET...

For the record, I'd like all of the Freeper trolls to recognize that any civilized meeting usually follows these rules. I don't know if the US Congress follows exactly these rules, but whatever set they follow are going to be 99% the same.

This means that whomever called and presides over the meeting is called "the Chairman" (or Chairperson, if preferred), and that all normal rules of procedure are followed in order to maintain the order and decorum of the proceedings.

I suggest that Rep. Sensennbrenner re-read the Congressional Rules of Order (which he violated by ending a meeting without motion to adjourn and totally ignoring the prior point of order) before he attempts to chair another meeting.



Comment #603: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 1:53pm ET...

Just so you barking moonbats are clear on the issue:

E-PETITIONS ARE MEANINGLESS!!!
E-SIGNATURES ARE EASILY FAKED!!!
IT'S ALL WORTHLESS!!!

All you did was kill a bunch of trees in order to deliver the equivalent of toilet paper to the White House.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!



Comment #604: Liz in Californig said on 6/17/05 @ 1:54pm ET...

This really needed to be done. Thank you for your courage and for standing up for us little people. I'm against violence in all of its forms, and any steps taken to oppose this awful war are vitally important. Thank you so much,
Liz in California



Comment #605: Sleeping Tiger said on 6/17/05 @ 1:54pm ET...

Achtung Achtung

CyberSarge wanted in the real IRAQ!
Put your ass where your cyber mouth is! Uncle George Needs YOU!
Zeig Heil MF.



Comment #606: Constant said on 6/17/05 @ 1:54pm ET...

Congressman Conyers,

Here is an assessment of the White House strategy to use the Senate-RNC to stifle inquiry into the DSM. [More . . . ]

Very respectfully,

Constant



Comment #607: truthseeker in Virginia said on 6/17/05 @ 1:54pm ET...

Dear Mr. Conyers,
You are FANTASTIC! I watched every second of the hearing and I cannot explain in a few words all the emotions I felt while listening to your witnesses testify. This was an amazing accomplishment! With all the obstacles the Republicans tried to put between you and this hearing, you overcame all of them.

We citizens must continue to speak out, have rallys, write letters, call, fax, email, organize and contribute money for this cause. You in Congress cannot be expected to do this alone.

Thank you, Mr. Conyers. I will also send a thank you email to all the members of Congress who signed your letter. This is just the beginning, and it may be the hardest challenge you have ever had to face. But I hope you know you are not alone. WE ARE WITH YOU!

Budda said there are three things that cannot be hidden forever--the sun the moon and the truth.



Comment #608: Up Yours said on 6/17/05 @ 1:55pm ET...

You are a disgrace and dishoner to the american people....



Comment #609: Constant said on 6/17/05 @ 1:56pm ET...

Congressman Conyers,

Here is an assessment of the White House strategy to use the Senate-RNC to stifle inquiry into the DSM. [More . . . ]

Very respectfully,

Constant



Comment #610: Genghis Khan said on 6/17/05 @ 1:58pm ET...

For the record, I would like the Freeper morons to recognize that any civilized proceedings follow these rules (or a close variant). This means that the person calling and presiding over the meeting is recognized as the "Chairman" (or "Chairperson", if desired). Further, adjournment is done only after a motion is called, seconded, and carried.

These rules are used in all manner of meetings, be they government, business, or otherwise in order to maintain the decorum and smooth operation of the proceedings.

I would suggest that Rep. Sensenbrenner re-read the Congressional Rules of Procedure (which he violated by adjourning before the motion was carried, and by ignoring the prior point of order requested) before he attempts to chair another meeting.



Comment #611: Jason Baron said on 6/17/05 @ 1:58pm ET...

Thank You, for actually representing us, unlike most in our government. You are a national treasure!



Comment #612: Genghis Khan said on 6/17/05 @ 2:00pm ET...

For the record, I would like the Freeper morons to recognize that any civilized proceedings follow these rules (http://www.robertsrules.com/) or a close variant. This means that the person calling and presiding over the meeting is recognized as the "Chairman" (or "Chairperson", if desired). Further, adjournment is done only after a motion is called, seconded, and carried.

These rules are used in all manner of meetings, be they government, business, or otherwise in order to maintain the decorum and smooth operation of the proceedings.

I would suggest that Rep. Sensenbrenner re-read the Congressional Rules of Procedure (which he violated by adjourning before the motion was carried, and by ignoring the prior point of order requested) before he attempts to chair another meeting.

ps: what's up with the HTML ban?



Comment #613: Jack Phillips said on 6/17/05 @ 2:01pm ET...

Mr. Conyers, it is difficult to describe my appreciation for your courage in taking on this administration and standing up for the truth. In this matter, you represent many more Americans than you may in fact realize.

Again. Many thanks.



Comment #614: Dave said on 6/17/05 @ 2:01pm ET...

#577 and I won't say your name,

Is George Bush a liar or incompetent. Did he lie about WMD or was he incompetent.

Remember this line "the buck stops here"



Comment #615: ART RYAN said on 6/17/05 @ 2:02pm ET...

It really is amazing to see just how dumbed down and propagandized these republicans have been.

What is it about the truth that these morons have a problem with?

Art



Comment #616: Sleeping Tiger said on 6/17/05 @ 2:03pm ET...

#575-580 and for the sweety at #568

Achtung Achtung

CyberSarge wanted in the real IRAQ!
Put your ass where your cyber mouth is!
Zieg Heil

Joseph Stalin and George Bushit = same category :::FACIESTS
PS: What did you win? The vote was STOLLEN !
HA HA HA



Comment #617: Constant said on 6/17/05 @ 2:03pm ET...

Congressman Conyers,

Here's an assessment of the White House-RNC strategy to use the Senate to stifle inquiry into the DSM [MOre . . . ]

Very respectfully,

Constant



Comment #618: Freeper Creep said on 6/17/05 @ 2:03pm ET...

Hello. Ima Moran freeper an I cantt spel two save mi worthless liffe. I tink Ima so clevver being a gerk on a progresif bloggg. Boww down to our king George. We hate representatuv gobermunt.



Comment #619: Thorne said on 6/17/05 @ 2:05pm ET...

#569. Concur OhioDem. That is why everything whith that crowd is "faith-based"...because then you don't need facts, you just have to "believe" something is true.

Make my religion FAITH BASED,
BUT MAKE MY GOVERNMENT FACT BASED.



Comment #620: ART RYAN said on 6/17/05 @ 2:06pm ET...

I can't get over how retarded these repugnicans are.

What problem do they have with knowing the truth?



Comment #621: JMcH said on 6/17/05 @ 2:07pm ET...

A refresher for you barking moonbats:

(1) E-petitions are MEANINGLESS
(2) E-signatures can be EASILY FAKED

Conyers delivered the equivalent of toilet paper to the White House. How many trees were killed for this? And you dare call yourselves environmentalists!



Comment #622: Sleeping Tiger said on 6/17/05 @ 2:10pm ET...

Achtung Achtung #568 and 575-580

CyberSarge wanted in the real IRAQ!
Put your ass where your cyber mouth is!
Zieg Heil

Joseph Stalin and George Bushit = same category :::FACIESTS
PS: What did you win? The vote was STOLLEN !
HA HA HA



Comment #623: Dave said on 6/17/05 @ 2:10pm ET...

Dummie,

Is Bush a liar or is he incompetent?

Remember this line "the buck stops here"

By the way what you are doing on this blog is obnoxious and inconsiderate.



Comment #624: Genghis Khan said on 6/17/05 @ 2:11pm ET...

For the record, I'd like the Freeper morons to recognize that all civilized proceedings (whether they be government, business, or other) follow these rules or a close variant.

This means that whomever calls and presides over the meeting is recognized as the "Chairman" (or "Chairperson" if desired), and that all normal rules and procedures are followed. This means that adjournment occurs only when motion is made, seconded, and carried.

I would suggest to Rep. Sensenbrenner that he re-read the Congressional Rules of Order (which he violated by not voting on the adjournment, and by ignoring the prior point of order) before he attempts to chair another committee meeting again.



Comment #625: Genghis2 said on 6/17/05 @ 2:12pm ET...

For the record, I'd like the Freeper morons to recognize that all civilized proceedings (whether they be government, business, or other) follow these rules or a close variant.

This means that whomever calls and presides over the meeting is recognized as the "Chairman" (or "Chairperson" if desired), and that all normal rules and procedures are followed. This means that adjournment occurs only when motion is made, seconded, and carried.

I would suggest to Rep. Sensenbrenner that he re-read the Congressional Rules of Order (which he violated by not voting on the adjournment, and by ignoring the prior point of order) before he attempts to chair another committee meeting again.



Comment #626: former republican said on 6/17/05 @ 2:13pm ET...

Thank you Mr Conyers!

Yesterday I saw something that opened my eyes for the first time. What I saw was the pursuit of truth, accountability, transparency, and honor in a system with which I had become cynical and apathetic. Today I went out and changed my affiliation from Republican to Democrat. I look forward to joining you in restoring America to it's former glory.

Thank you.

A former Republican



Comment #627: Genghis Khan said on 6/17/05 @ 2:14pm ET...

For the record, I'd like the Freeper morons to recognize that all civilized proceedings (whether they be government, business, or other) follow these rules or a close variant.

This means that whomever calls and presides over the meeting is recognized as the "Chairman" (or "Chairperson" if desired), and that all normal rules and procedures are followed. This means that adjournment occurs only when motion is made, seconded, and carried.

I would suggest to Rep. Sensenbrenner that he re-read the Congressional Rules of Order (which he violated by not voting on the adjournment, and by ignoring the prior point of order) before he attempts to chair another committee meeting again.



Comment #628: Howard Dean said on 6/17/05 @ 2:14pm ET...

Who wants to fight! arrrr I'm Howard Dean, the bull goose looney of the Barking Moonbat Insane Asylum. And no one is more pissed off then me! Not conyers ...turbin durbin....NO ONE HEAR ME!!!!!I'll kick their fucking asses!!! I'm the craziest....IMPEACH ....Bush ordered 9/11!!!! ..Downing AVE!!!! I'm fucking nuttier then DU!!!!!!!!!!!!!AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHH



Comment #629: Point of Order said on 6/17/05 @ 2:15pm ET...

For the record, I'd like the Freeper morons to recognize that all civilized proceedings (whether they be government, business, or other) follow these rules or a close variant.

This means that whomever calls and presides over the meeting is recognized as the "Chairman" (or "Chairperson" if desired), and that all normal rules and procedures are followed. This means that adjournment occurs only when motion is made, seconded, and carried.

I would suggest to Rep. Sensenbrenner that he re-read the Congressional Rules of Order (which he violated by not voting on the adjournment, and by ignoring the prior point of order) before he attempts to chair another committee meeting again.



Comment #630: a favor to the freeper trolls said on 6/17/05 @ 2:18pm ET...

Use it in good health and use it soon . Show the country you aren't the cowards you appear to be.

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/infomgt/forms/eforms/dd0004.pdf



Comment #631: The Chimperor said on 6/17/05 @ 2:21pm ET...

Congressman Conyers,

I take issue with this document you delivered to me yesterday. One feller, a Hugh G. Rection, appears to have signed it over a thousand times. I also notice that Charles Manson, who I know has been disenfranchised since the 1970's, has signed it many times too. Not to mention many non-Amurkins like Saddam Hussein and that Al-Zarkawi feller, who are known terrists. What kind of monkey's uncle do you take me for?

Yours truly,
Dubya



Comment #632: Dale said on 6/17/05 @ 2:23pm ET...

We sent toilet paper to a man who is full of shit.



Comment #633: Dimitra said on 6/17/05 @ 2:24pm ET...

I am happy to see someone finally stand up and ask the hard questions. This blind acceptance has gone on entirely too long. It's amazing that when cspan has programming on that really makes a difference the program is convieniently interuppted.



Comment #634: for all freeper trolls said on 6/17/05 @ 2:25pm ET...

use this is good health!

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/infomgt/forms/eforms/dd0004.pdf



Comment #635: for the freeper trolls said on 6/17/05 @ 2:31pm ET...

use it in good health!

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/infomgt/forms/eforms/dd0004.pdf



Comment #636: Ohiodem1 said on 6/17/05 @ 2:31pm ET...

Sleeping Tiger #554 - They will NEVER get an education as long as Republicans control the distribution of education. It is not in the interest of despots to have an educated, informed electorate.

A wise professor I had a long time ago said (paraphrasing) "The only thing that stands between us and a barbaric society is the failure of the the American Publc School System to educate students for 12 years".

This has happened, and the barbarians are among us.

No Child Left Behind will keep it that way. NCLB should rightly be called No Child Will get Ahead.

Back to the DSMinutes. Way to go, Rep. Conyers. America's nightmare is on the way out, we are awakening from our slumber, and you are the alarm clock.



Comment #637: Mindless drones said on 6/17/05 @ 2:32pm ET...

It's sad, really, the mentality of these idiot right-wing freepers. All they know and understand is hate, bigotry, and intolerance and it shows with every post. They remind me of worker bee drones, programmed to repeat the same drivel over and over without an original thought or action among them. These people are clearly brainwashed and manipulated by the neoCons in this country. They had their taste of power but now they are losing it and they simply cannot bear the thought. Their mindless repetitive posts only demonstrate the lack of rational and cognitive thought of desperate, power-mad individuals who know their end is near.

Keep posting, freeper drones. While your lack of intelligence and free thought is pitiful, it is still quite entertaining. You are truly representative of the rest of your kind.



Comment #638: P.K. said on 6/17/05 @ 2:39pm ET...

Bush Sr. Said In 1996 That War With Iraq ‘Would Turn Entire Arab World Against Us’

Former President George Bush predicted in 1996 that if the United States were to engage in another war with Iraq, one aimed at overthrowing Saddam Hussein, the “entire Arab world would turn against us” and the U.S. would alienate its allies in the international community.

“To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us, and make a broken tyrant into a latter-day Arab hero,” Bush said in an interview with the BBC marking the five-year anniversary of the Gulf War.

Moreover, Vice President Dick Cheney said at an energy conference six years ago that hundreds of thousands of United States soldiers and Iraqi civilians would die if a war in Iraq were ever fought on the streets of Baghdad.

“To have brought the (Gulf) war into the populous Iraqi capital of Baghdad where Hussein is based would have involved a different type of military operation than in the desert, and would have put large numbers of Iraqi civilians and hundreds of thousands of our troops at risk of being killed,” he said.

Cheney, the former chairman and chief executive of oil conglomerate Halliburton Co. and former defense secretary under the first President Bush, was referring to the 1991 Gulf War when the U.S. liberated Kuwait. Cheney also said in 1997 that if the U.S. were to engage in another war with Iraq and try to remove Saddam Hussein from power the international coalition “would come apart,” a situation currently in the making as U.S. relations with France, Germany and Russia are becoming increasingly strained because our allies will not back a U.S. led coalition to attack Iraq.

Despite the dire warnings Bush Sr. and Cheney made six years ago, the current Bush Administration appears to be on course to launch a full-scale war with Iraq, one that appears to be more about finding Saddam Hussein and assassinating the Iraqi President than destroying any weapons of mass destruction that may or may not be hidden somewhere in the country.

Until that goal is achieved, the U.S. and the rest of the world will never be safe or at peace; statements made repeatedly by Republican hawks since the end of the first Gulf War.

“Unless we can take out Saddam Hussein, we are going to have to live with Saddam Hussein (for a long time),” said James Schlesinger, former defense secretary under presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford, at a conference in 1998. Schlesinger noted however that the countries of the region “don’t want us to attack Iraq.”

“We keep getting waved off,” he said.

If the U.S. decides to attack Iraq this time around urban warfare appears to be inevitable, according to news reports that quoted senior defense officials.

Cheney said in 1997 that President Bush was not willing to sacrifice U.S. soldiers’ lives by allowing combat to spread to Baghdad in an effort to locate Saddam Hussein, a situation which the current Bush Administration seems willing to do now.

“From the standpoint of the president, the question was how many additional (U.S.) lives is Saddam Hussein worth? And his answer was, ‘Not very many,’” Cheney said.

Cheney said six years ago that capturing the Iraqi president would be very difficult and would likely involve a large number of civilian casualties.

“The only way to make certain you could get him was to go occupy all of Iraq and start sorting through Iraqis until you find Saddam Hussein,” Cheney said in 1997.

If the U.S. does invade Iraq, the Bush Administration said the war won’t last more than two months and will not involve a large number of U.S. or civilian casualties.

But Secretary of State Colin Powell warned President Bush last year that if the U.S. starts a war in Iraq without the support of a majority of our allies in the international community, which is the case now, it would be “much more complicated and bloody” than the first Gulf War.



Comment #639: P.K. said on 6/17/05 @ 2:39pm ET...

Bush Sr. Said In 1996 That War With Iraq ‘Would Turn Entire Arab World Against Us’

Former President George Bush predicted in 1996 that if the United States were to engage in another war with Iraq, one aimed at overthrowing Saddam Hussein, the “entire Arab world would turn against us” and the U.S. would alienate its allies in the international community.

“To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us, and make a broken tyrant into a latter-day Arab hero,” Bush said in an interview with the BBC marking the five-year anniversary of the Gulf War.

Moreover, Vice President Dick Cheney said at an energy conference six years ago that hundreds of thousands of United States soldiers and Iraqi civilians would die if a war in Iraq were ever fought on the streets of Baghdad.

“To have brought the (Gulf) war into the populous Iraqi capital of Baghdad where Hussein is based would have involved a different type of military operation than in the desert, and would have put large numbers of Iraqi civilians and hundreds of thousands of our troops at risk of being killed,” he said.

Cheney, the former chairman and chief executive of oil conglomerate Halliburton Co. and former defense secretary under the first President Bush, was referring to the 1991 Gulf War when the U.S. liberated Kuwait. Cheney also said in 1997 that if the U.S. were to engage in another war with Iraq and try to remove Saddam Hussein from power the international coalition “would come apart,” a situation currently in the making as U.S. relations with France, Germany and Russia are becoming increasingly strained because our allies will not back a U.S. led coalition to attack Iraq.

Despite the dire warnings Bush Sr. and Cheney made six years ago, the current Bush Administration appears to be on course to launch a full-scale war with Iraq, one that appears to be more about finding Saddam Hussein and assassinating the Iraqi President than destroying any weapons of mass destruction that may or may not be hidden somewhere in the country.

Until that goal is achieved, the U.S. and the rest of the world will never be safe or at peace; statements made repeatedly by Republican hawks since the end of the first Gulf War.

“Unless we can take out Saddam Hussein, we are going to have to live with Saddam Hussein (for a long time),” said James Schlesinger, former defense secretary under presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford, at a conference in 1998. Schlesinger noted however that the countries of the region “don’t want us to attack Iraq.”

“We keep getting waved off,” he said.

If the U.S. decides to attack Iraq this time around urban warfare appears to be inevitable, according to news reports that quoted senior defense officials.

Cheney said in 1997 that President Bush was not willing to sacrifice U.S. soldiers’ lives by allowing combat to spread to Baghdad in an effort to locate Saddam Hussein, a situation which the current Bush Administration seems willing to do now.

“From the standpoint of the president, the question was how many additional (U.S.) lives is Saddam Hussein worth? And his answer was, ‘Not very many,’” Cheney said.

Cheney said six years ago that capturing the Iraqi president would be very difficult and would likely involve a large number of civilian casualties.

“The only way to make certain you could get him was to go occupy all of Iraq and start sorting through Iraqis until you find Saddam Hussein,” Cheney said in 1997.

If the U.S. does invade Iraq, the Bush Administration said the war won’t last more than two months and will not involve a large number of U.S. or civilian casualties.

But Secretary of State Colin Powell warned President Bush last year that if the U.S. starts a war in Iraq without the support of a majority of our allies in the international community, which is the case now, it would be “much more complicated and bloody” than the first Gulf War.



Comment #640: P.K. said on 6/17/05 @ 2:39pm ET...

Bush Sr. Said In 1996 That War With Iraq ‘Would Turn Entire Arab World Against Us’

Former President George Bush predicted in 1996 that if the United States were to engage in another war with Iraq, one aimed at overthrowing Saddam Hussein, the “entire Arab world would turn against us” and the U.S. would alienate its allies in the international community.

“To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us, and make a broken tyrant into a latter-day Arab hero,” Bush said in an interview with the BBC marking the five-year anniversary of the Gulf War.

Moreover, Vice President Dick Cheney said at an energy conference six years ago that hundreds of thousands of United States soldiers and Iraqi civilians would die if a war in Iraq were ever fought on the streets of Baghdad.

“To have brought the (Gulf) war into the populous Iraqi capital of Baghdad where Hussein is based would have involved a different type of military operation than in the desert, and would have put large numbers of Iraqi civilians and hundreds of thousands of our troops at risk of being killed,” he said.

Cheney, the former chairman and chief executive of oil conglomerate Halliburton Co. and former defense secretary under the first President Bush, was referring to the 1991 Gulf War when the U.S. liberated Kuwait. Cheney also said in 1997 that if the U.S. were to engage in another war with Iraq and try to remove Saddam Hussein from power the international coalition “would come apart,” a situation currently in the making as U.S. relations with France, Germany and Russia are becoming increasingly strained because our allies will not back a U.S. led coalition to attack Iraq.

Despite the dire warnings Bush Sr. and Cheney made six years ago, the current Bush Administration appears to be on course to launch a full-scale war with Iraq, one that appears to be more about finding Saddam Hussein and assassinating the Iraqi President than destroying any weapons of mass destruction that may or may not be hidden somewhere in the country.

Until that goal is achieved, the U.S. and the rest of the world will never be safe or at peace; statements made repeatedly by Republican hawks since the end of the first Gulf War.

“Unless we can take out Saddam Hussein, we are going to have to live with Saddam Hussein (for a long time),” said James Schlesinger, former defense secretary under presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford, at a conference in 1998. Schlesinger noted however that the countries of the region “don’t want us to attack Iraq.”

“We keep getting waved off,” he said.

If the U.S. decides to attack Iraq this time around urban warfare appears to be inevitable, according to news reports that quoted senior defense officials.

Cheney said in 1997 that President Bush was not willing to sacrifice U.S. soldiers’ lives by allowing combat to spread to Baghdad in an effort to locate Saddam Hussein, a situation which the current Bush Administration seems willing to do now.

“From the standpoint of the president, the question was how many additional (U.S.) lives is Saddam Hussein worth? And his answer was, ‘Not very many,’” Cheney said.

Cheney said six years ago that capturing the Iraqi president would be very difficult and would likely involve a large number of civilian casualties.

“The only way to make certain you could get him was to go occupy all of Iraq and start sorting through Iraqis until you find Saddam Hussein,” Cheney said in 1997.

If the U.S. does invade Iraq, the Bush Administration said the war won’t last more than two months and will not involve a large number of U.S. or civilian casualties.

But Secretary of State Colin Powell warned President Bush last year that if the U.S. starts a war in Iraq without the support of a majority of our allies in the international community, which is the case now, it would be “much more complicated and bloody” than the first Gulf War.



Comment #641: Susan the pitiful said on 6/17/05 @ 2:40pm ET...

" If you are so patriotic join up! but check out the number of your friends in the White House and congress who have served or have children who serve it speakes for itself."

Ask what you can do for your enemy!
Has anti-Bush hatred become mainstream?

Here's a local (Philadelphia) man -- with an anything-but-local message:

Mark Aronchick, a prominent Philadelphia lawyer and Democratic fund-raiser, shares the intensity. Talking about Bush, he could barely sit still:

"I haven't seen this kind of anger and disdain directed at a president since the worst days of Richard Nixon. Bush is playing to base fears. He has a contemptible pseudosincerity. Our anger is that fundamental. It is primal. These are evil forces we're up against. I'm 54 years old, a mature person, and I mean what I'm saying - there's a heart of darkness. And they're getting away with it."

Regardless of whether anyone (except maybe that battler of evil, Michael Marcavage) agrees with this guy, something is clearly going on. Expressions like "evil" and "heart of darkness" -- while they might not sound as extreme as that recent comment to this post which attracted attention -- evince what can only be called hatred. I think the fact that they are made by an otherwise-reasonable adult (and taken seriously by the area's leading newspaper) gives them a far more ominous significance than an outburst of temper by a commenter.

Remaining calm and logical is becoming more and more of a challenge.

Still, I want to return to Kerry and the revisitation of Vietnam, because I think that by focusing on the details of wartime service alone, people miss asking a more relevant question Kerry seems hell-bent to avoid: who did the most for the enemy?

What I see evolving is an election year chickenhawk campaign theme.

'How dare you question me. I was in Vietnam!'

...."I don't know what it is about what these Republicans who didn't serve in any war have against those of us who are Democrats who did."

Because it is quite clear that Kerry thinks his service in Vietnam gives him the moral authority to make 2004 the Year of the Chickenhawk, I think examining the logic of the central premise is in order.

Let's take, um, Gus Hall and George Lincoln Rockwell. The former headed the Communist Party, USA, while the latter headed the American Nazi Party. Both served in World War II; Hall in the Navy, and Rockwell too (the latter distinguishing himself as a fighter pilot).

Clearly, Hall and Rockwell would be more entitled to serve in the government, or to comment on foreign policy, than any of the "chickenhawks" Kerry complains of.

Hey let's do a chickenhawk count!

In the United States Senate, 19 Republicans are veterans, while only 17 Democrats are.

In the House, there are 57 Republican veterans to 43 Democrats.

Simple math. If you disallow all non-veterans from voting, then the Republicans would have an even bigger margin of control than they do now.

So why are Kerry and the Democrats pushing this chickenhawk nonsense anyway? I think it's a loser, and it's another reason I'd prefer Edwards to Kerry.

At least then I wouldn't have to hear a warmed-over "Ich bin ein Hanoier" speech.

http://www.classicalvalues.com/cgi-bin/mt-tb.cgi?mode=view&entry_id=805



-snip-

But there is another emerging anti-war argument, which embraces moralism and ignores strategy. It's populist rather than highbrow, less about policy than about credibility. In recent weeks more and more Iraq doves have said you can't be legitimately pro-war unless you've gone to war yourself.

-snip-

And it is precisely the interaction and competition between those different forms of knowledge that Hagel, Rich, and Pinkerton seek to shut down. If taken seriously, their argument disqualifies anyone who hasn't, won't, or can't see combat from ever advocating American military intervention, including last year against Afghanistan. By that logic, women and the openly gay--both barred from combat--can never be pro-war. (In fact, by that logic, people who haven't served can't even legitimately oppose gay exclusion--since they have no experience of the military morale that the prohibition against open homosexuality seeks to preserve.) And authenticity is an infinitely expandable debaters' trick. For instance, hawks say that keeping Saddam Hussein in power will leave Americans vulnerable to terrorist attack. But people in big cities would be far more vulnerable than those in small towns. Just as with a U.S. invasion, only some Americans would really be in harm's way. Does this mean only those Americans most endangered by Saddam's continued reign can legitimately say we should leave him in power?

At root, the ad hominem anti-war argument denies that thought can transcend experience. And that, in its way, represents a more ambitious effort to foreclose debate than anything dreamed up by Donald Rumsfeld. It certainly doesn't sound like "national dialogue" to me.

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20020902&s=trb090202



Comment #642: P.K. said on 6/17/05 @ 2:42pm ET...

Bush Sr. Said In 1996 That War With Iraq ‘Would Turn Entire Arab World Against Us’

Former President George Bush predicted in 1996 that if the United States were to engage in another war with Iraq, one aimed at overthrowing Saddam Hussein, the “entire Arab world would turn against us” and the U.S. would alienate its allies in the international community.

“To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us, and make a broken tyrant into a latter-day Arab hero,” Bush said in an interview with the BBC marking the five-year anniversary of the Gulf War.

Moreover, Vice President Dick Cheney said at an energy conference six years ago that hundreds of thousands of United States soldiers and Iraqi civilians would die if a war in Iraq were ever fought on the streets of Baghdad.

“To have brought the (Gulf) war into the populous Iraqi capital of Baghdad where Hussein is based would have involved a different type of military operation than in the desert, and would have put large numbers of Iraqi civilians and hundreds of thousands of our troops at risk of being killed,” he said.

Cheney, the former chairman and chief executive of oil conglomerate Halliburton Co. and former defense secretary under the first President Bush, was referring to the 1991 Gulf War when the U.S. liberated Kuwait. Cheney also said in 1997 that if the U.S. were to engage in another war with Iraq and try to remove Saddam Hussein from power the international coalition “would come apart,” a situation currently in the making as U.S. relations with France, Germany and Russia are becoming increasingly strained because our allies will not back a U.S. led coalition to attack Iraq.

Despite the dire warnings Bush Sr. and Cheney made six years ago, the current Bush Administration appears to be on course to launch a full-scale war with Iraq, one that appears to be more about finding Saddam Hussein and assassinating the Iraqi President than destroying any weapons of mass destruction that may or may not be hidden somewhere in the country.

Until that goal is achieved, the U.S. and the rest of the world will never be safe or at peace; statements made repeatedly by Republican hawks since the end of the first Gulf War.

“Unless we can take out Saddam Hussein, we are going to have to live with Saddam Hussein (for a long time),” said James Schlesinger, former defense secretary under presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford, at a conference in 1998. Schlesinger noted however that the countries of the region “don’t want us to attack Iraq.”

“We keep getting waved off,” he said.

If the U.S. decides to attack Iraq this time around urban warfare appears to be inevitable, according to news reports that quoted senior defense officials.

Cheney said in 1997 that President Bush was not willing to sacrifice U.S. soldiers’ lives by allowing combat to spread to Baghdad in an effort to locate Saddam Hussein, a situation which the current Bush Administration seems willing to do now.

“From the standpoint of the president, the question was how many additional (U.S.) lives is Saddam Hussein worth? And his answer was, ‘Not very many,’” Cheney said.

Cheney said six years ago that capturing the Iraqi president would be very difficult and would likely involve a large number of civilian casualties.

“The only way to make certain you could get him was to go occupy all of Iraq and start sorting through Iraqis until you find Saddam Hussein,” Cheney said in 1997.

If the U.S. does invade Iraq, the Bush Administration said the war won’t last more than two months and will not involve a large number of U.S. or civilian casualties.

But Secretary of State Colin Powell warned President Bush last year that if the U.S. starts a war in Iraq without the support of a majority of our allies in the international community, which is the case now, it would be “much more complicated and bloody” than the first Gulf War.



Comment #643: Nuthatch said on 6/17/05 @ 2:42pm ET...

Dear Mr. Conyers,
Finally, a politican I can be proud of. Your actions are those of a true patriot. We support you all the way in exposing these greedy liars and holding them accountable for the hundreds of thousands who have died and have been wounded as a result of the invasion of Iraq.

As for the trolls on this board, why do you hate America and democracy? Anyone who loves this country and supports our troops would want to know the truth about how this whole mess started. You should be ashamed.



Comment #644: P.K. said on 6/17/05 @ 2:48pm ET...

Bush Sr. Said In 1996 That War With Iraq ‘Would Turn Entire Arab World Against Us’



Comment #645: Byron Bellamy said on 6/17/05 @ 2:49pm ET...

Mr. Conyers:

I believe you to be the brightest bulb lighting this dark American landscape. Thank You, Sir.



Comment #646: Merchant said on 6/17/05 @ 2:51pm ET...

I managed to catch the meeting last night. The whole meeting was very good and Mr Conyers deserves a huge pat on the back for organizing it. I heard that you were denied entry to the white house yesterday. Its painfully clear that the administration wants nothing to do with this memo and would gladly cut out the tongues of 540,000 Americans to hide the facts. I intend to watch the meeting again tonite when it is reaired on CSPAN2 at 8PM



Comment #647: Truth and Justice said on 6/17/05 @ 3:02pm ET...

Congressman Conyers,

You are a real American Patriot and hero. I can not be more proud of you and the other Democratic leaders that are supporting your efforts. Truth and Righteousness will always utimately prevail. I salute you.



Comment #648: Arleen Roy said on 6/17/05 @ 3:03pm ET...

Representative Conyers, today you gave me hope. Thank you for working to help take America back!



Comment #649: P.K. said on 6/17/05 @ 3:07pm ET...

Former President George Bush predicted in 1996 that if the United States were to engage in another war with Iraq, one aimed at overthrowing Saddam Hussein, the “entire Arab world would turn against us” and the U.S. would alienate its allies in the international community. He was right.



Comment #650: neomunk said on 6/17/05 @ 3:10pm ET...

The problem with truth is that it shatters the non-self-consistant worldview they cling so desperatly to in order to justify the things they do and aspire to.



Comment #651: Patrick Michael said on 6/17/05 @ 3:13pm ET...

Thank you honorable Mr Conyers and all of US who have continued to ask the Questions from the begining. General Electric owns NBC, do you think they are profiting from this destruction of Iraq and its "rebuilding"? Look at how all the corporate controlled "news media" paraded their beautiful spokes model "journalists" before the public rallying around this mad man who has taken over the white house. Liberal left wing media? Where I would Love to find it! They (CNBC)removed Phil Donohue when he was asking the questions. This is not a Republican or Democrat issue, they have both screwed the American people and we all better wake up and hold them accountable and get them packing. This would best serve us all if we didnt become like the current hate mongers like O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Haggerty, Pat Roberts, Dr. Laura and on and on. Keep asking the questions, its very American remember? If they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear, yet all we see are lies, deception, and sneaky acts. Haliburton should reimburse the Tax payers of this country for its unpatriotic act of ripping us all off, while waving a flag and snickering at the stupidity of us all. Its a new day, AMEN!! I'am proud of what we the people are getting done. Blessings to us all.



Comment #652: Kertis Engle said on 6/17/05 @ 3:13pm ET...

It seems an appropriate request to me. I respond. Here is the list.

A complete list: 123 House members in Downing push
RAW STORY

The following list, obtained by RAW STORY details the House members who have now signed onto Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) letter calling on President Bush to answer new questions about the Downing Street documents. There are 123 members, including Conyers.

In the letter, Conyers and other members said they were disappointed the mainstream media has not touched the revelations, which suggest the U.S. was "fixing intelligence" around a plan to attack Iraq.

"Unfortunately, the mainstream media in the United States was too busy with wall-to-wall coverage of a "runaway bride" to cover a bombshell report out of the British newspapers," Conyers writes. "The London Times reports that the British government and the United States government had secretly agreed to attack Iraq in 2002, before authorization was sought for such an attack in Congress, and had discussed creating pretextual justifications for doing so."

"The Times reports, based on a newly discovered document, that in 2002 British Prime Minister Tony Blair chaired a meeting in which he expressed his support for "regime change" through the use of force in Iraq and was warned by the nation's top lawyer that such an action would be illegal," he adds. "Blair also discussed the need for America to "create" conditions to justify the war."

More than 550,000 copies of the letter were delivered to the White House Thursday evening.

The House members follow. RAW STORY hopes to provide the members by first name sometime later. We're working on the formatting now.

#
Abercrombie; Allen; Baird;
Baldwin; Becerra;
Berkley; Bishop;
Blumenauer;
Brown, Corrine; Brown, Sherrod;
Butterfield;
Capps;
Capuano;
Carson; Christensen;
Clay;
Cleaver; Clyburn; Conyers;
Cooper;
Cummings;
Davis, Danny;
Davis, Susan;
DeFazio;
DeGette;
Delahunt;
DeLauro;
Dingell;
Doggett;
Doyle;
Eshoo; Farr;
Fattah; Filner;
Ford;
Frank;
Green; Grijalva;
Gutierrez;
Hastings;
Hinchey;
Holt;
Honda;
Hooley;
Inslee;
Jackson; Jackson-Lee;
Jefferson;
Johnson, Eddie Bernice; Kaptur;
Kennedy; Kildee;
Kilpatrick; Kucinich;
Larsen, Rick; Larson, John; Lee, Barbara;
Levin;
Lewis;
Lofgren;
Maloney;
Markey;
Matsui;
McCarthy; McDermott;
McGovern; McKinney;
McNulty;
Meehan;
Meek;
Meeks;
Michaud;
Millender-McDonald;
Miller, Brad; Miller, George; Moore, Gwen; Moran; Nadler; Napolitano; Neal; Oberstar; Olver; Owens; Pallone; Pascrell; Pastor; Payne; Pelosi; Price, David; Rangel; Rothman; Rush; Sanchez, Linda; Sanders; Schakowsky; Scott, Bobby; Serrano; Sherman; Skelton; Slaughter; Smith, Adam; Solis; Stark; Strickland; Tauscher; Thompson, Bennie; Tierney; Towns; Tubbs Jones; Udall, Mark; Udall, Tom; Van Hollen; Velazquez; Wasserman Schultz; Waters; Watson; Watt; Waxman; Weiner; Wexler; Woolsey; Wu; Wynn.

Originally published on Friday June 17, 2005.






Copyright © 2004-05 Raw Story Media, Inc. All rights reserved.



Comment #653: Ohio_Kels said on 6/17/05 @ 3:15pm ET...

Thank you Rep. Conyers. I wish we had Representatives from Southwestern Ohio (Cincinnati area in particular) who had as much guts as you do. It's not easy to stand up to the majority and take on powerful entities, and I commend you for doing so as do countless numbers of Americans who feel the same way. Keep fighting the good fight and know that to have faith you must have truth! Faith in Truth!!!

-Kelsey



Comment #654: Ohio_Kels said on 6/17/05 @ 3:16pm ET...

Thank you Rep. Conyers. I wish we had Representatives from Southwestern Ohio (Cincinnati area in particular) who had as much guts as you do. It's not easy to stand up to the majority and take on powerful entities, and I commend you for doing so as do countless numbers of Americans who feel the same way. Keep fighting the good fight and know that to have faith you must have truth! Faith in Truth!!!

-Kelsey



Comment #655: Dems with no clue said on 6/17/05 @ 3:17pm ET...

"I would suggest that Rep. Sensenbrenner re-read the Congressional Rules of Procedure (which he violated by adjourning before the motion was carried, and by ignoring the prior point of order requested) before he attempts to chair another meeting."

how hypocritical it is of Conyers to even accuse him, as Conyers has done it before when Conyers chaired committees...TYPICAL of Conyers!

Roberts rules also gives a chairman the right to adjourn a meeting at any time if members become generally out of order.

Chairman Sensenbrenner gave the closing statement after each member had questioned the panel, and gavelled the meeting adjourned, which is the purview of the Chairman. Nadler and other members of the committee continued, despite committee and House rules, to make statements and hear witnesses after adjournment. Chairman Sensenbrenner had the microphones turned off, which is also his purview to do as Chairman. C-span offers video of the hearing is at the cspan website. The meeting is about halfway down and Chairman Sensenbrenner adjournes the meeting at about 1:50.

Here's the problem: Since they did not stick to the topic of the hearing, as required by the rules - the hearing itself was illegal to hold in the first place. Nadler behaved in an illegal manner.

They were out of order - they were acting outside the scope of the hearing the entire time. The fact Sensenbrenner allowed that to go one for two hours was more than fair to the Democrat since it was technically improper for him to do so under House rules.

When a chairman adjourns the meeting, it is over. The illegal activity was when RATS kept going after it was over.

RATS are counting on the general public unaware of Roberts Rules or basing their knowledge of it on soundbites.



Comment #656: Ex-Democrat said on 6/17/05 @ 3:22pm ET...

Congratulations Mr. Conyers! You and the other America haters have turned this former democrat into a staunch republican voter.

Keep up the good work.....



Comment #657: Ex-Democrat said on 6/17/05 @ 3:22pm ET...

Congratulations Mr. Conyers! You and the other America haters have turned this former democrat into a staunch republican voter.

Keep up the good work.....



Comment #658: Ex-Democrat said on 6/17/05 @ 3:22pm ET...

Congratulations Mr. Conyers! You and the other America haters have turned this former democrat into a staunch republican voter.

Keep up the good work.....



Comment #659: SandyK said on 6/17/05 @ 3:23pm ET...

Re: Comment #417
Check out the DFA (Democracy for America) blog for posts under the name "Crayon" and you will find that they are identical to posts on this blog from "Hank". See the DFA blog on one of the threads from yesterday (6/16). Quoting the exact same media stats, in the exact same format. All caps,literally shouting out for attention.

But, I guess I'm probably just another one of those liberal "conspiracy theorist" ;-)

BTW~~~~ As the threads continue to unravel, the venom-spewing wingnuts here multiply like rabbits. How pathetic.



Comment #660: DUmmies look at this said on 6/17/05 @ 3:23pm ET...

hear·say
n.
1.Unverified information heard or received from another; rumor.
2.Law. Evidence based on the reports of others rather than the personal knowledge of a witness and therefore generally not admissible as testimony.

DUh, DUH, DUMMIES!

Congrats, you DUMMIES have NOTHING!



Comment #661: Patrick Michael said on 6/17/05 @ 3:30pm ET...

Thank all of you who are starting to knock over the Domino's that lead to the White House. Any person Republican or Democrat who has sworn to "God" to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States and has betrayed us in the name of corporate greed, and self serving action MUST BE arrested and held accountable. We have scum in both parties who are loyal to none. Wake up America lets get our country back before we live in a total locked down police state of fear and 1984 like loyalty to the government. Peace Now.



Comment #662: Patrick Michael said on 6/17/05 @ 3:30pm ET...

Thank all of you who are starting to knock over the Domino's that lead to the White House. Any person Republican or Democrat who has sworn to "God" to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States and has betrayed us in the name of corporate greed, and self serving action MUST BE arrested and held accountable. We have scum in both parties who are loyal to none. Wake up America lets get our country back before we live in a total locked down police state of fear and 1984 like loyalty to the government. Peace Now.



Comment #663: hopeful in texas said on 6/17/05 @ 3:33pm ET...

Thank you Congressman Conyers, you are a true hero.

I have just one question for Mr. Bush. If you and Blair really were just focused on a peaceful resolution, as you insist, why are the 6 official British documents known as the Downing Street Minutes only about starting the war?

Please ignore the mean comments on this site Sir, I think it's just Karl Rove getting scared. Moral people know you are a hero.



Comment #664: TruthToPower said on 6/17/05 @ 3:37pm ET...

Bush the liar and his whole criminal cabal needs to be taken down by whatever means. Tyrants don't like to give up the power they steal. Be prepared to hit the streets swinging a big stick. I am.



Comment #665: TruthToPower said on 6/17/05 @ 3:40pm ET...

Bush the liar and his whole criminal cabal needs to be taken down by whatever means. Tyrants don't like to give up the power they steal. Be prepared to hit the streets swinging a big stick. I am.



Comment #666: TruthToPower said on 6/17/05 @ 3:42pm ET...

Bush the liar and his whole criminal cabal needs to be taken down by whatever means. Tyrants don't like to give up the power they steal. Be prepared to hit the streets swinging a big stick. I am.



Comment #667: TruthToPower said on 6/17/05 @ 3:46pm ET...

Bush the liar and his whole criminal cabal needs to be taken down by whatever means. Tyrants don't like to give up the power they steal. Be prepared to hit the streets swinging a big stick. I am.



Comment #668: Joan said on 6/17/05 @ 4:05pm ET...

I can only write that Howard Dean, Dick Durbin and John Conyers all speak for me and mine.

Thank you Rep. Conyers for all you do for us.



Comment #669: Joan said on 6/17/05 @ 4:05pm ET...

I can only write that Howard Dean, Dick Durbin and John Conyers all speak for me and mine.

Thank you Rep. Conyers for all you do for us.



Comment #670: Joan said on 6/17/05 @ 4:06pm ET...

I can only write that Howard Dean, Dick Durbin and John Conyers all speak for me and mine.

Thank you Rep. Conyers for all you do for us.



Comment #671: Evalynn Kenepp said on 6/17/05 @ 4:19pm ET...

Thank you, Representative Conyers, for taking the initiative and bringing this important information to national attention. I appreciate your efforts.
Evalynn Kenepp, Portland, OR



Comment #672: hypocricy spotter said on 6/17/05 @ 4:22pm ET...

Does "Mindless Drones" even see the irony in their own post?

Now where is that "rolls eyes" smiley?



Comment #673: Marcia Hutchinson said on 6/17/05 @ 4:24pm ET...

I feel redundant, but it can't be said enough: "Thank you so much." You work so hard on behalf of all of us. You are up against corruption and an unprecedented mean spiritness of the "other" party, and you keep on plugging. From the botom of my heart, thank you.



Comment #674: Joy said on 6/17/05 @ 4:45pm ET...

Mr. Conyers opened the door. Let's not drop the ball. Let's make sure our voices continue to be heard.
Let's make this just the beginning of our fight for truth!!!



Comment #675: AJR said on 6/17/05 @ 4:56pm ET...

it's been a very long time since i've felt proud of America. Yesterday...you did America proud. I thank you and i will support you through all things. GOD bless you, Sir!!



Comment #676: AJR said on 6/17/05 @ 4:56pm ET...

it's been a very long time since i've felt proud of America. Yesterday...you did America proud. I thank you and i will support you through all things. GOD bless you, Sir!!



Comment #677: Susan said on 6/17/05 @ 5:03pm ET...

Nattering Nabobbs of Napalm

The spectors reappear
Throats deep, please shed a tear.
So similar the lies -
The truth so loud denies,
Uncensored, see their fear.

For them it's hide the dirt
With glib responses, curt.
Respect for no one, we
Claim it's for liberty
While selves we also hurt.

And now we know that WE
NAPALMED, used WMD.
I guess that's where they went -
And depleted U we sent -
Our children, theirs, can't flee.

Now "minutes" show our war
Began so well before
They ever "fixed" intel
And sent us all to hell
So Bush could settle score.

But those who did deceive
Have never had to bleed
Just like long ago
They, in comfort, strike a foe,
And, failing, have to leave.



Comment #678: Janet said on 6/17/05 @ 5:06pm ET...

Dear Congressman Conyers

Thank you!!!!! Thank you!!!!

Impeachment is too good for these warmongering bastards.

INDICT for war crimes and high treason and war profitteering.

Bush, Inc. ARE the terrorists. IT's about time to stop them and their bloodlust.

It's about time we start focusing on our children, education and the planet.

You've brought back hope and respect for the people who reprsent us.

Bush and Bibles do not represent me and my family.

Sincerely,
Janet



Comment #679: Susan said on 6/17/05 @ 5:06pm ET...

Nattering Nabobbs of Napalm

The spectors reappear
Throats deep, please shed a tear.
So similar the lies -
The truth so loud denies,
Uncensored, see their fear.

For them it's hide the dirt
With glib responses, curt.
Respect for no one, we
Claim it's for liberty
While selves we also hurt.

And now we know that WE
NAPALMED, used WMD.
I guess that's where they went -
And depleted U we sent -
Our children, theirs, can't flee.

Now "minutes" show our war
Began so well before
They ever "fixed" intel
And sent us all to hell
So Bush could settle score.

But those who did deceive
Have never had to bleed
Just like long ago
They, in comfort, strike a foe,
And, failing, have to leave.



Comment #680: St. Pancake Corrie said on 6/17/05 @ 5:18pm ET...

I"m angrer the Howard Dean cuz I'm fucking DEAD!!!!!!!

IMPEACH....AAAAAA.... DOWNEY MEMOS...WE ARE FUCKIN CRAZY MAD......BUSH ORDERED 9/11 AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH I AM THE SAINT OF DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU



Comment #681: St Pancake Corrie said on 6/17/05 @ 5:23pm ET...

I am the patron Saint of hatred for the DU religion. and i want you to drink my koolaid



Comment #682: Robert Merriman said on 6/17/05 @ 5:23pm ET...

Mr. Conyers,

Congratulations on the stand you have taken.

In the face of opposition mounted against yourself and the American People by the right wing in Congress, you have dared to speak and publish Truth in the Land, and demand an accounting from those who have polluted the hearts and minds of Americans with propaganda based on LIES.

Now the work begins. I'm sure your past experience dealing with matters such as this will serve you well.

Those of us who served the country by standing guard in foreign lands to defend the Constitution and our loved ones at home did not do so to permit the likes of Bush & Company to destroy our democracy. Speaking for myself, and many other U.S. military veterans, we stand with you. Let the right wing know a line has been drawn in the sand. They may be able to stall the progress of the movement to remove Bush from office and place him on trial before a tribunal facing the charge of war crimes, but they cannot prevent it. If their "brown shirt" tactics in Congress continue, and they refuse to allow the voice of the People to be heard they will be left facing those of us who hold by our oaths to defend the Constitution against "domestic enemies."

For years I have watched those seeking to take control of our government whittle away, taking a little here and and little there. I'm afraid my efforts to encourage others to see what's been going on and take a stand have not had a great effect. It's my hope this effort to hold Bush accountable for his disgraceful actions will succeed.

The removal of Bush ( - and Cheney and Rumsfeld and ___ fill in the blank - )is only a beginning. I believe our goal must be to examine the effect deregulation and privatization and campaign finance laws have had upon our nation, our economy, and our democracy, and to revisit that legislation. It's time to turn the control of our government back over to the People, or it's time for the People to revoke the franchise we gave to the Government and begin again.



Comment #683: aspiemom said on 6/17/05 @ 5:52pm ET...

I have been told by two co-workers that the news they watch and rely on for international current events is BBC on Public Broadcasting Station (PBS). PBS is up for federal funding , and the deadline for their decision is Wednesday. Please contact your federal Representatives and Senators before then to let them know , WE THE PEOPLE want to keep PBS on the air. We need as many reliable sources as we can get besides the London Times.



Comment #684: Glenn Becker said on 6/17/05 @ 5:56pm ET...

Rep. Conyers -

I simply don't have the words. Since 11/3/04 I have been almost too ashamed to leave my house. Thank you so much for showing _everyone_ what it is supposed to mean to be a citizen of this country.

Regards,

Glenn Becker



Comment #685: Cindy said on 6/17/05 @ 6:01pm ET...

The Freeper trolls here just reaffirm what most of us already know...they really are dumbed down. They are bragging on their site that they had such a turn out at the rally. Such a turn out, I did not even see them, nor did anyone else I know. The day was for TRUE American patriots who truly care about our troops and this country, not for immature brats, who since they can't refute the DSM resort to childish tactics. Anytime we have them this riled up, you know we are doing something right. Please keep fighting us for Mr. Conyers...we need more like you, and thank you again !



Comment #686: Oggh the Neandethall said on 6/17/05 @ 6:02pm ET...

Me named Oggh. Me knuckles sore from dragging them. Too bad cause me want to go join friends at Free Republic.



Comment #687: aspiemom said on 6/17/05 @ 6:15pm ET...

Congressman Conyers, You are the most compassionate and courageous leader on the planet at this moment in history because you SERVE the people and RESPECT the fallen troops and their families. You are an example to all elected officials. Thank you and God Bless you and your Office Staff for dealing with the ventings of we Bloggers in Cyberspace :o)



Comment #688: Anne_Colorado said on 6/17/05 @ 6:33pm ET...

Thank you, Rep. Conyers, and to the couageous Americans who participated in yesterday's hearing. As more of the truth about the Iraq mess is uncovered, no doubt the Bush administration and supporters will apply whatever craven and desperate tactics they can think of to discredit your efforts and investigation and the American people who support you in your quest to reveal--simply--the Truth. Name calling, character smearing, mockery, disinformation, and outright lies... these are the
tools and tactics of those who vehemently and fearfully cling to their illusions that they have cornered the market on what's right, decent, true, and just. Please stay the course, Rep. Conyers... many, many Americans are behind you in this.



Comment #689: Whistling in Graveyards said on 6/17/05 @ 6:45pm ET...

The pres. promised justice for those whose ashes he dared stand upon at The Pile. The families and our nation is still waiting. We were betrayed, Congress was betrayed, the troops were betrayed, our country was betrayed, truth has been betrayed. Absolute power, absolute corruption. Such a political capitalist.



Comment #690: Bob Morrison said on 6/17/05 @ 6:49pm ET...

Thank you sir! You make me proud to be an American. Thanks to people like you, the United States will return to what it used to be.



Comment #691: Richard Tuft said on 6/17/05 @ 7:01pm ET...

Rep. Conyers congratulations and well done. The whole world is watching and applauding!



Comment #692: aspiemom said on 6/17/05 @ 7:04pm ET...

Congressman Conyers is the only one brave enough to say:

"The Emperor is not wearing any clothes".



Comment #693: sorah dubitsky said on 6/17/05 @ 7:06pm ET...

You are my hero. Thanks for standing on the side of truth and real morality.
Anyone who decides to go to war needs to be accountable. This administration has yet to tell the truth about the Iraq war. Our young men and women and dying and getting injured for political ideology, not because we were in any imminent danger.

Keep up the good work. I will support you any way I can.



Comment #694: sorah dubitsky said on 6/17/05 @ 7:06pm ET...

You are my hero. Thanks for standing on the side of truth and real morality.
Anyone who decides to go to war needs to be accountable. This administration has yet to tell the truth about the Iraq war. Our young men and women and dying and getting injured for political ideology, not because we were in any imminent danger.

Keep up the good work. I will support you any way I can.



Comment #695: sorah dubitsky said on 6/17/05 @ 7:07pm ET...

You are my hero. Thanks for standing on the side of truth and real morality.
Anyone who decides to go to war needs to be accountable. This administration has yet to tell the truth about the Iraq war. Our young men and women and dying and getting injured for political ideology, not because we were in any imminent danger.

Keep up the good work. I will support you any way I can.



Comment #696: sorah dubitsky said on 6/17/05 @ 7:07pm ET...

You are my hero. Thanks for standing on the side of truth and real morality.
Anyone who decides to go to war needs to be accountable. This administration has yet to tell the truth about the Iraq war. Our young men and women and dying and getting injured for political ideology, not because we were in any imminent danger.

Keep up the good work. I will support you any way I can.



Comment #697: sorah dubitsky said on 6/17/05 @ 7:07pm ET...

You are my hero. Thanks for standing on the side of truth and real morality.
Anyone who decides to go to war needs to be accountable. This administration has yet to tell the truth about the Iraq war. Our young men and women and dying and getting injured for political ideology, not because we were in any imminent danger.

Keep up the good work. I will support you any way I can.



Comment #698: Dr Jay said on 6/17/05 @ 7:52pm ET...

FLASH!

News!!

BUSH & CO. TO BE ARRESTED!!!

Along with the entire Bush cabinet including Condoleza Rice, the entire Bush Administration is under arrest by special detachments of the FBI and foreign Law enforcement agencies that have been gathering evidence to include the latest "Downing Street Memos." This was the stick that has finally broke the camels back.

Democrat and Republicans that have cow-towed to the corrupt administration have their paper shredders going overtime and the closets and desk drawers are being cleaned out of all suspect evidences of associations.

It's too late for those that are planing on going down with the ship for the sakes of showmanship to the Bush regime, but for the most part, leading polls of the people show that senators and congress people lead by the heroic John Conyers on the Democrats side and Ron Paul from the Republican are fast growing in number.

John Conyers also lead the hearings on C-Span 2 today in a small room that was not worthy of the importance of this issue. The Republicans threw up all types of obstacles in front of those courageous Representatives. There were congresswomen saying there were more votes in one day then was usual. This drew several comments from congress people about how it seemed funny, and that it was like it was planed to keep them away from that hearing on the "Downing Street Memos." Not an unusual move from this corrupt administration and the puppets it owns.

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan2_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GF17Ak02.html

The Republicans are trying an end run to beat the imposition of the eminent impeachment proceedings.
The terror alert is at RED level and it's only in the White House! The Nation is fast awakening to the lies and deceit of this administration. It seems the course of events has turned everyone into born again constitutionalists and the 'Johnny Comes Home' march is on! What a swing to try and save the Emperors face.
The dodge to pass a bill to bring the troops home is a ploy to stave off the "Downing Street Memo" from hitting home where it is now stewing up the people's steam.

And its about time this nation woke up. There is more to deal with, but maybe with a clean burner, this country can get back on track with making friends with the world instead of making everyone world wide hate us all.

Glory to God in the highest places of your hearts and minds America,

Dr Jay

REAL NEWS REFS:

http://www.axisoflogic.com/cgi-bin/exec/view.pl?archive=80&num=14050

The past comes to haunt the present...
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b59a9604835.htm

http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm

http://president.bush.swellserver.com/news/top_stories/arrested.php

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushbill1.html

http://www.rawparadise.org/pipermail/news-editorials_christiancommonlaw-gov.org/Week-of-Mon-20031215/000416.html

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~parke120/Jeremiad/rants/busharrested.html

http://www.blogd.com/bushrecord.html

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/18/cocaine/

http://www.thefourreasons.org/duresources.htm

http://www.dembloggers.com/

AND THEY CALL INNOCENT AMERICANS WHO ONLY USE THEIR GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH "TERRORISTS" AND TELL PEOPLE TO TELL OTHERS THEY ARE "DANGEROUS."

YOU JUST REMEMBER YOU SNITCHES AND RATS, THIS IS THE CORRUPTION YOU SUPPORT AND THE RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE YOU CHASE OUT OF TOWN WITH RUMORS AND FALSE INVESTIGATIONS ARE WHY WE THE TRUTH SEEKERS ARE WORKING EVEN HARDER TO BRING THE TRUTH TO THE PEOPLE NO THANKS TO YOUR NEWSPAPER COMMIE RAT MINIONS THAT ARE INFECTED WITH YOUR LIES AND FALSE NEWS PROPAGANDA MACHINE!!!

DOWN WITH BABYLON!!!

Note to the truth seekers. Make hard copies as fast as you read this info.

:)



Comment #699: Teri S. said on 6/17/05 @ 8:03pm ET...

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! for being courageous enough to not allow this issue to be ignored. You are truly an inspiration and a great American!



Comment #700: Catharine said on 6/17/05 @ 8:05pm ET...

Thank you for having the courage to stand up and fight for TRUTH. God Bless and keep up the great work!



Comment #701: Juan said on 6/17/05 @ 8:17pm ET...

Thank you honorable Congressman Conyers. I saw part of the hearing via the internet. I felt so proud to be an American and to see a representative of the government actually speak for THE PEOPLE. I have you in my prayers.

Please continue your RELENTLESS search for the truth. I just know we will get there with major help from you.

Pranams!



Comment #702: JJ said on 6/17/05 @ 8:39pm ET...

Good job there Towelhead!! You are simply showing america how the dems DO NOT support the troops



Comment #703: JJ said on 6/17/05 @ 8:41pm ET...

I want to be a DUmmie when i grow up! And YES that is what you are!!!



Comment #704: A Soldier's Mom said on 6/17/05 @ 9:29pm ET...

Mr. Conyers,

I watched CSPAN and was very proud of everyone in that room yesterday. I am one of the 560,000 signatures you carried to the Whitehouse. Thank you for delivering it for us all. Thank you for putting it together and getting the word out. I am neither Democrat nor Republican, never have been, I vote for people and platforms. So please do not label me anything political. I am a soldier's mom, who's son is about to do his second full year in Iraq.

Everyone acts like we're attacking the President, when all we are doing is asking for answers to some well-founded questions. Answers he should be willing to give, especially to us military families. Give us all the respect of a dignified response. Produce some American documents from that timeframe, showing he was hard at work doing everything he possibly could to avoid this war. That's it. Come out and tell us exactly what was done and we'll listen. Ignoring this will not make it go away. Had the President simply and respectfully responded a month ago to this letter sent by 88+ members of Congress, 560,000 of us wouldn't have had to sign too. Had this been covered by the mainstream news, I'm sure your website would have crashed with millions of responses!!

They are treating you like crap and I applaud your dignity and how you haven't stooped to their level in response. We have your back, Sir, as Americans.

Hopefully we'll get some news soon. Thank you for your hard work and dedication.

A Soldier's Mom



Comment #705: Doug said on 6/17/05 @ 9:44pm ET...

Dear Mr Conyers,

As a republican for most of my life, until three years ago, I am disheartened to say the least, of how my former party acts. A party that had pandered to the far right to swing the election, that call themselves "Christians" yet totally ignore those very values that Christ himself represented. The "Prince of Peace" never preached war. The "Savior" never valued wasting ones life over life it's self. The "redeemer" stated that you my ammend your ways and confess your wrong doingings! Yet, to Chirst was open and TOLERANT to other faiths and his Muslim brothers, yes brothers through Abraham's two Son's.

This is so NOT the republican party of today! This is no longer a Nation that stands on the separation of powers, religion and a free press. And I am ashamed to say that I was a republican! How could this have happened? How can it continue? Where is the accountability and reconsiliation?

We need to press on, we need to keep up the momentum, we need JUSTICE! Will you keep fighting? We will keep pressing this administration? Will we EVER hear the free press again stand up, as our foundeing fathers, the likes of Franklin and Paine did when they wrote the constitution and held the Constitutional Congress?

What say you everyone? Shall we press on? Shall we get our liberties back? Write you Congressmen and Senator's and tell them we have strayed from our Constitution and DEMAND that we return back to that Nation, that shining light on the hill!

I'll stop preaching now and leave with this; When I was young, I sang in a boy's choir in Philadelphia and sang a song at Valley forge and in Elis Alley. We were celebrating the Bi-Centernial and President Ford was present. This song had these words that are incribed at the foot of the Statue of Liberty; "Give me your tied, you poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free, the wretched refuse of your teaming shores. Send this your homeless temptess tossed to me. I lift my light before the golden door."

Once we were a beacon of freedom, now a flickering light in the face of an illegal war and dentention camps. We need to restore America to where she belongs! God bless you Mr. Conyers, and GOD BLESS AMERICA!



Comment #706: Losing Faith said on 6/17/05 @ 10:23pm ET...

HANK,
How can you be such a sick apologist and cheerleader for these thugs when they pull the sort of crap Senselessbrainer is pulling lately. Denying Dems hearings until they demand through house rules; presiding over those meetings and showing NO RESPECT the whole time and adjourning the meeting out of order and without authority. He continued his attempted silencing of any dissent by not allowing the dems to use an appropriate (none at first) room. Ofcoarse that wasn't the end of it. He had to try and continue to undermine the Dem's right to a hearing by scheduling 11 consecutive votes, at the last minute, to coincide with the hearings. What's he so afraid of? These actions are obvious in their intent. To justify them is completely partisan.



Comment #707: Retired Army said on 6/17/05 @ 11:10pm ET...

Thanks so much, Congressman Conyers. You are a patriotic hero, sir.



Comment #708: Retired Army said on 6/17/05 @ 11:10pm ET...

Thanks so much, Congressman Conyers. You are a patriotic hero, sir.



Comment #709: Retired Army said on 6/17/05 @ 11:10pm ET...

Thanks so much, Congressman Conyers. You are a patriotic hero, sir.



Comment #710: TBreeze said on 6/17/05 @ 11:46pm ET...

Congressman Conyers,

Thank you for all that you are doing for this country.



Comment #711: Sam Pekenpah said on 6/17/05 @ 11:46pm ET...

Helpful Him.

Cut and paste this message below and send it to your congress and senate peoples NOW!!!!

http://www.democrats.com/peoplesemailnetwork/39
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/17/14206/1059
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Sir or Mam,

Why are you people so blatantly direlect in your duty to do something about the "DOWNING STREET MEMOS" story?

This is the biggest story since the al-cia-da 911 drill and FACTUALLY reveals the lies responsible for all the deaths of the American soldiers in the illegal war in Iraq. Where is your patriotic spirit and why aren't you doing your civic duty by VOTING FOR IMPEACHMENT NOW! IT WILL SAVE MILLIONS OF LIVES!!

It's terrible that the media is so GOV controlled. Everyone knows more about world news from alternative news sources and the emerging leader in reporting truth, C-Span. This nation is tired of being lied to. My family and I as well as all those in our Christian Church are not watching any more TV or buying anymore news papers ever again in our lives. The call is going out to all the Christians across America to stop buying newspapers and to turn off the lying TV.

We as an awakening and growing larger group of Americans are tired of the propaganda, lies, and "Wag the Dog" antics. We are already planing to vote out many of the people who have supported the corrupt regime of the Bush Cabal.

You are guilty for the deaths of those that die everyday as this illegal war drags on.
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE!!!You are bigger criminals then those that perpetuated this illegal war and 911 because you all keep dragging the dead horse on and on in the face of everyone knowing what liars and disinformation artists the media and leadership is.
Imagine how foolish you all look lying to people who know your lying!

WE DO NOT WANT YOUR LIES ANYMORE!

Signed,

A disgruntled REPUBLICAN.

REAL REPORTING!

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan2_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

http://www.guardian.co.uk/salon/story/0,14752,1509059,00.html

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=686

http://mediamatters.org/items/200506170006

http://www.nytimes.com/auth/login?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/17/politics/17downing.ready.html&OQ=adxnnlQ3D1Q26adxnnlxQ3D1119033142-Q2BqzJsODbZThDhLFK6PoQ2Beg&OP=1061bbbf/.kqQ60._mH-6mmKF.F))N.)Q22.Q3AQ25.ZmhBKBH-.Q3AQ25_mkjBjRd6q!_Q27dQ3DKAh

http://influenzapandemic.blogspot.com/

http://cbs4.com/health/health_story_331135531.html

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/articles/050616/16avian.htm

http://www.nutrimedical.com/conditions.jhtml?method=view&conditions.id=148



Comment #712: Lois said on 6/17/05 @ 11:47pm ET...

Re: Jafar Jafar, former head of Iraq's nuclear program from 1982 until the statute of Saddam fell on April 9, 2003 stated before the attack Iraq had no WMD. Since he did not appear in the deck of 55, perhaps he is out of Iraq and available to describe what information he provided for the U.N. that might have been removed by the White House in December 2002 before Iraq's report for the U.N. Security Council was delivered.

Mr. Jafar according to press articles from the 1980s was educated at Oxford, thus is English speaking.

I would urge Congressman Conyers to see if there are people from Iraq who might be able to testify.

Thank you for all of your fine and dedicated work.



Comment #713: Linda Larsen said on 6/17/05 @ 11:51pm ET...

You are a true American hero, Mr. Conyers - THANK YOU for standing up to the Republican LIE machine. We'll get the truth out there - BUSH LIED.



Comment #714: Ki Ke said on 6/17/05 @ 11:52pm ET...

Dear Congressman Conyers,

I want to thank you, from the bottom of my heart, and all the people who made yesterdays Downing Street Memo hearings possible. You are a hero as well as all of the brave people who took the time to speak at the hearings.

Even under such adverse circumstances the truth cannot and will not squashed like some annoying bug.

They put you in the basement, in a closet sized room, yet the truth has shown brightly dispite the lack of windows. Sound familiar?

I don't mean to add to your already overflowing plate but I think someone should investigate the use of incendiary weapons (aka MK-77's or Fire Bombs) on the people of Iraq. Not to mention Depleted Uranium!

Take back those medals from the architects of atrocities and give them to the ones deseving of them. The people who speak the truth in the face of adversity.

"Our freedom is the tool of our survival, It is the range of our action in the world to let our values improve the condition of the world" Granny D

"Don't let anyone stop you. Don't let the gray routines of the world hypnotize you away from the truth of the matter, that this is a great adventure we are on, and that we have heroic parts to play in this theather of the soul" Granny D

You have brought light to the end of a very long and dark tunnel. You are amazing!
Thank you,
K



Comment #715: Edward Rochelle said on 6/18/05 @ 12:01am ET...

Mr. Conyers,

Thanks for what you did today. There was a nice ray of good in the evil empire today. Bring this "man" down, and you will have us right behind you pulling the ropes.

KEEP SWINGING



Comment #716: Danielle said on 6/18/05 @ 12:03am ET...

Re. Conyers,

Thank you so damn much. Please don't give up.

Danielle



Comment #717: Nickster said on 6/18/05 @ 12:06am ET...

Conyers 2008!



Comment #718: Sister Patrick said on 6/18/05 @ 12:12am ET...

God Bless Mr. Conyers and all of you beautiful people who work for Truth, Justice and the Light. The darkones know there time is up and you can see it in the childish dribble sprinkled thru this wonderful web site. They sleep walk after the corporate monster who will sell them all to the highest bidder, toiling in their WalMart stores, McDonalds, and fighting for their precious liquid gold OIL. Blessings to you all who work for Truth, we will Triumph!



Comment #719: MariaS said on 6/18/05 @ 12:13am ET...

Rep. Conyers you have my undying gratitude and support. Thank you and thanks to all the brave voices. We can do this.



Comment #720: Blueridge said on 6/18/05 @ 12:14am ET...

Congressman Conyers,

I want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart. Our country needs you in the worst way. I had lost all hope in the USA, it seems as if we are spiraling out of control and we have no respect anywhere in the world. With the leadership we have today, it is no wonder our land is torn in half. Today you took the first big step in turning our country around. If we can not trust our President, we may as well have a dictator, which is my opinion of our leadership anyway.

Iraq is a very heavy burden for our young people who serve so bravely. My father served 32 years in the US Army, and fought in WWII and Korea. He saw war and death to many days in his life. As a military man he always did as his county ask, with no questions. Today I am sure he would be ashamed of what our government and presidant is doing in Iriq, and his heart would brake for all those brave young soldiers who have lost there lives for Mr. Bush's game.

You somehow gave me a little bit of respect again. If our country is in dishonor, how can we look at the rest of mankind and expect anything but disdain. Just knowing there is someone in D.C. who is keeping an eye on these disgraceful elected officals makes me fell a little better.

Keep the fire burning, and there feet in the fire. Who knows, they may even feel a little heat (from hell)! If thats possible form this bunch.



Comment #721: Ariana said on 6/18/05 @ 12:27am ET...

It looks like a bunch of childish freepers have taken over the comments here. Oh well, don't let them bring you down!

Please know, Rep. Conyers, that despite some of the assanine comments left here on your blog, you have many supporters who are very proud of you! I know many all across the political spectrum, not just liberals or democrats, but greens, libertarians, and republicans as well.

Thank you so much! You have given many of us hope.



Comment #722: Blueridge said on 6/18/05 @ 12:41am ET...

Rep. Conyers,

Thank you so much! You and your constituents managed to finally stick it to our dictatorship! All of you made me very proud to be an American today. I have not been able to say that for a long time. Keep up the fantastic work, and we will all be behind you no matter what it takes. It is time someone brought this Dictator down, including Mr. Rove the possible creator of this republican nightmare were in.

I hope the people will also get behind the movement to bring all of our troops home in as short of time as possible. It would seem logical to me, they should be able to get them out as quick as they put them in, but we all know that wont happen. Maybe we should just pack them all up and drop them right in the middle of the mess they made, and leave them there.

Thank you again for your supurb service and the many long hours they you had to work to get this accplished.



Comment #723: James said on 6/18/05 @ 12:54am ET...

#666 - I'm sure your not advocating anything illegal, right? You're talking about a big stick attatched to a protest sign, right?

Beware the agent provocateur.



Comment #724: BuffyTheFundieSlayer said on 6/18/05 @ 1:21am ET...

Mr. Conyers,

Thank you for your valiant efforts in standing up for what is right. It is because of you and others like you that I have hope for this country for the first time in over four years. Don't let any of the negative comments on this blog get to you, it just means your efforts have struck a nerve in the enemy. They wouldn't be angry if there wasn't something to the D.S.M.

Keep up the good work!



Comment #725: Sherry and David Bollenbacher said on 6/18/05 @ 1:31am ET...

Mr. Conyers and everyone else. Thank you. You give me hope and restore my faith in this country or what is left of it. Thank you for both of us and for our familys' (they are mostly Republican, but my most right wing mother in law in Pinehurst, NC confessed to me just a week and 1/2 ago, she is not happy with George.

It's time to do a happy dance.

Once again, will you run for the Senate soon and thank you again!



Comment #726: Lone_Wolf said on 6/18/05 @ 1:37am ET...

I am really a freeper and I mole at DU. I actually posted a thread at DU encouraging DUmmies to DU your blog.



Comment #727: Jeanette McMahon said on 6/18/05 @ 1:53am ET...

I first want to say thank you, Mr. Conyers, for your perseverence and hard work. I, like many Americans, have been ashamed of the current Administration's repeatedly un-American, pro-corporate actions, and I truly hope that we can see this all the way to having Bush impeached.
I have to say, after reading this blog, I can't believe the incredible waste of energy and time by people who limit their comments to name-calling and ridiculing others simply because they either have a different viewpoint or a different party affiliation -- or don't unquestioningly follow the current regime! It would be entertaining if it weren't so damaging and destructive. I am baffled...how could people who seem articulate and intelligent insist on discounting the very legitimate and real threat to democracy that the Downing Street Memo has revealed? What has happened to this country and the desire to protect our nation as a whole? I read comments by some of the people on this blog and I am left shaking my head. It's beyond understanding how some use disrespectful, condescending and hate-filled talk and expect to be taken seriously. If the people of this country can't start having open discussions about real issues without degenerating to name-calling and ridicule, we won't need to worry about terrorists - we'll simply destroy ourselves.



Comment #728: Jessie said on 6/18/05 @ 2:05am ET...

A BIG THANKS to Mr. Conyers.

And a question to Rove's camp who is probably reading this as I write. Why is it that if the Bush camp is so innocent and their hands are free of blood you all still refuse to address these memos?
Once again you have shown your true colors. Hail to the thiefs right?

It might take some time but the Republicans can't even begin to see whats coming. A sad day in America when only 43% of the country approves of the President. An even sadder day when he could improve those numbers by just being honest. But obviously he won't.



Comment #729: Dr Jay said on 6/18/05 @ 3:00am ET...

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=437&row=0

The great supportive energies continue to pour forth from God. The true God not the fake god.
We must all give thanks for this.
America is getting this chance to choose her destiny. The time to act has never been so important. Soon, real Law Enforcement must break into the White House to arrest the corrupt administration.
God has commanded a complete and through house cleaning. Only this done SOON will stave off more war that will escalate more war. The plan can be stopped, but there is no time to talk about it. The time is now America for you to act, or regret it for the rest of your lives. Congress must Act now too!!!

It is awesome to see so many of the branches finally come together and realize that yes, we are a Tree, and we are all One Tree after all!

Just look at all the great input from all walks of America and her concerned people. Even the provocateurs are a rare empowering blessing un-beknownst to themselves of course. Got to laugh aye! We will overcome, and yes, these professional dis-info artists are funny aren't they!

We are truly blessed to have this forum and the others that are fast growing. Praise God! Let us form the general places of free press, and not get too confused with all the ca-ca that will not doubt start popping up. Re: above.

Great article from Brother Greg in the link below. Greg is a great team member and powerful writer.

Let us all remember, we are all Americans before we are anything else and we all are tired of the lies and BS insanity of this leadership gone mad. We are all different, but as previously expressed, all one tree. Let's think like the tree, instead of a branch. May we all put down the petty differences and the self-built fears that we unfortunately have been collectively to well taught? Let us all please just think 'freedom' and revel in the right to enjoy it in expressions.

Brother Conyers, this is a gift from Our Father for you to use if you like it:

United we Stand America...

Divided we fall...

Let Family and Community...

...be the call!

:)

Love is the Guide,

Dr Jay

PS: To ere is human...to forgive is Divine!

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=437&row=0



Comment #730: Dr Jay said on 6/18/05 @ 3:03am ET...

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=437&row=0

The great supportive energies continue to pour forth from God. The true God not the fake god.
We must all give thanks for this.
America is getting this chance to choose her destiny. The time to act has never been so important. Soon, real Law Enforcement must break into the White House to arrest the corrupt administration.
God has commanded a complete and through house cleaning. Only this done SOON will stave off more war that will escalate more war. The plan can be stopped, but there is no time to talk about it. The time is now America for you to act, or regret it for the rest of your lives. Congress must Act now too!!!

It is awesome to see so many of the branches finally come together and realize that yes, we are a Tree, and we are all One Tree after all!

Just look at all the great input from all walks of America and her concerned people. Even the provocateurs are a rare empowering blessing un-beknownst to themselves of course. Got to laugh aye! We will overcome, and yes, these professional dis-info artists are funny aren't they!

We are truly blessed to have this forum and the others that are fast growing. Praise God! Let us form the general places of free press, and not get too confused with all the ca-ca that will not doubt start popping up. Re: above.

Great article from Brother Greg in the link below. Greg is a great team member and powerful writer.

Let us all remember, we are all Americans before we are anything else and we all are tired of the lies and BS insanity of this leadership gone mad. We are all different, but as previously expressed, all one tree. Let's think like the tree, instead of a branch. May we all put down the petty differences and the self-built fears that we unfortunately have been collectively to well taught? Let us all please just think 'freedom' and revel in the right to enjoy it in expressions.

Brother Conyers, this is a gift from Our Father for you to use if you like it:

United we Stand America...

Divided we fall...

Let Family and Community...

...be the call!

:)

Love is the Guide,

Dr Jay

PS: To ere is human...to forgive is Divine!

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=437&row=0



Comment #731: Cheryl said on 6/18/05 @ 3:09am ET...

I think you've already secured a place for yourself in the history books where you'll be mentioned as one of the few Democrats who didn't shamefully cower from this administration.

There is no doubt in my mind that this administration will eventually be exposed for its corruptness. It's not a matter of if, but when. And people will look back and shake their heads that the media and even most of the Dem's stood idly by and did nothing.

You will stand apart as a brave patriot with integrity and honor. I'm proud to be on your side.

You are fighting the good fight, tha